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ID Cards in Manchester
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First it was the congestion charge, now it's ID cards. Has the city of Manchester upset the Labour party in some way?
We seem to be the new testing ground for unpopular Government projects.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8035002 .stm
We seem to be the new testing ground for unpopular Government projects.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8035002 .stm
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.Exactly Rollo. Plus the fact, who's got a 'spare' �60 these days?
To me, it's just another example of this Government not listening to the people and trying to bulldoze through legistaltion and policies that no one seems to want nor need.
I think it's amazing that Ms Smith thinks these cards will help to fight terrorism. All of the 7/7 bombers would have had a valid ID card anyway.
To me, it's just another example of this Government not listening to the people and trying to bulldoze through legistaltion and policies that no one seems to want nor need.
I think it's amazing that Ms Smith thinks these cards will help to fight terrorism. All of the 7/7 bombers would have had a valid ID card anyway.
Just an idea I would like to float but maybe the Government wants to finally bury the ID cards issue, and they need the good folk of Manchester to reject it, like they did with the congestion charge, before they can give up on it.
Its introduction is bound to be a complete failure, so maybe they have set it up to fail?
Its introduction is bound to be a complete failure, so maybe they have set it up to fail?
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I have no problem with getting an ID card, have the opnion that if you've nothing to hide then what's the problem.
I can also see a lot of plusses with having a standard form of ID which is more suited to carrying with you everyday, though, to be fair, a photocard driving licence does me a lot of the time.
I can't see people paying for something on a voluntary basis though.
Despite thinking it's a good idea (ID cards in general) I wouldn't be impressed to see the amount of money which appeared to be spent on trying to get the congestion charge through and turned out to be a complete waste of money.
I can also see a lot of plusses with having a standard form of ID which is more suited to carrying with you everyday, though, to be fair, a photocard driving licence does me a lot of the time.
I can't see people paying for something on a voluntary basis though.
Despite thinking it's a good idea (ID cards in general) I wouldn't be impressed to see the amount of money which appeared to be spent on trying to get the congestion charge through and turned out to be a complete waste of money.
Thanks for all the comments everyone.
The main problem I have with this proposal is that it seems to put too many eggs in one basket. If (or rather, when) someone is unfortunate enough to have their identity cloned they're going to have a hell of job repairing the damage done.
At the moment, the system is akin to a distributed network. We have the banks, the DVLA, the passport agency, etc. None of these organisations are infallible � far from it � but they are separate; so a mistake by one isn't replicated by all the others. So if one of them messes up your records (or if your identity is cloned) you can at least be reasonably assured that the others haven't all made the same mistake. This should make correcting those mistakes easier.
In principal I have no objection to carrying identification. I do it all the time. But I do have a problem with a single Government agency being responsible for all my data, including biometric data.
Plus the fact, if I want to drive car I have to put my hand in my pocket and pay for driving lessons and a licence. Fair enough.
If I want to travel abroad, I pay for a passport.
What exactly am I getting for my �60? What does my ID card allow me to do today that couldn't do yesterday?
Don't think so Ms Smith. Not unless I can claim it on my expenses ;-)
The main problem I have with this proposal is that it seems to put too many eggs in one basket. If (or rather, when) someone is unfortunate enough to have their identity cloned they're going to have a hell of job repairing the damage done.
At the moment, the system is akin to a distributed network. We have the banks, the DVLA, the passport agency, etc. None of these organisations are infallible � far from it � but they are separate; so a mistake by one isn't replicated by all the others. So if one of them messes up your records (or if your identity is cloned) you can at least be reasonably assured that the others haven't all made the same mistake. This should make correcting those mistakes easier.
In principal I have no objection to carrying identification. I do it all the time. But I do have a problem with a single Government agency being responsible for all my data, including biometric data.
Plus the fact, if I want to drive car I have to put my hand in my pocket and pay for driving lessons and a licence. Fair enough.
If I want to travel abroad, I pay for a passport.
What exactly am I getting for my �60? What does my ID card allow me to do today that couldn't do yesterday?
Don't think so Ms Smith. Not unless I can claim it on my expenses ;-)
Apart from the fact that they want us to pay for this card I cannot understand all the strong feeling against having some form of National ID card.
We have seen cameras put up that follow our everyday movements, cameras that keep a check on the speed of our vehicles, charges made for entering certain parts of our city etc, etc. all of these without much of a protest, yet mention ID cards, oh! dear, oh! dear.
With all the illegals that have entered this country, the Government even has no idea who is here. With making everyone register to obtain an ID card, then at least only those that have an legitimate reason for being in the country will be able to get their hands on one, and all those that haven't one will soon rise to the surface.
We have seen cameras put up that follow our everyday movements, cameras that keep a check on the speed of our vehicles, charges made for entering certain parts of our city etc, etc. all of these without much of a protest, yet mention ID cards, oh! dear, oh! dear.
With all the illegals that have entered this country, the Government even has no idea who is here. With making everyone register to obtain an ID card, then at least only those that have an legitimate reason for being in the country will be able to get their hands on one, and all those that haven't one will soon rise to the surface.