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R1Geezer | 23:23 Mon 26th Jan 2009 | Body & Soul
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Just Watched tonights Horizon, it seems that our body determines what weight it should be and any efforts we make are purely temporary. It seems that unless you are one of the lucky ones you must exist in a more or less constant state of starvation! Doh!
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Didn't see the programme, but I think these two did really well. Michelle McManus went down from 22 st. to 14st...
http://www.childrenfirst.nhs.uk/teens/images/f eatures/michelle_before-after.jpg
And then there's this guy.....

http://www.dracowulf.com/images/about/before_a fter.jpg

Brilliant!
I watched it....but I certainly didn't get the impression that starvation was the case. Rather -there are way too many variables. Don't forget that much is determined by how we eat as children....along with at least 1/2 dozen other genetic and social factors. Hope is not lost!!!
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yes ice maiden, losing weight is doable, keeping it off is the problem. There are countless people who have lost loads only to put it back when they start eating normally.

Pastafreak, but most of us are way past that now. I know I work hard in the gym and watch what I eat but I know that if I just relax I'd get fatter, it just seems that the body has made it's mind up! The US doctor towards the end more or less said that almost permanent hunger is the price most of us will have to pay to keep from piling on the pounds!
I for one refuse to starve...lol.....I will just be careful....I have learnt that as soon as I am 1/2 st over my comfortable weight-I get serious!
Well I'm still a bit overweight to what I was last year, and the ****** refuses to shift!
You're right, R1Geezer - someone in my family did famously, and lost over 7 st., but within a year, she'd gained it all again - and more. Once you've reached an ideal weight, if you then cease to watch the calorie intake, you're going to gain again, but if you carry on eating in the same manner, you'd make yourself ill. Keeping it off's the very hard part.
That is just it. Weight loss isn't about dieting to the right weight and then forgetting it. It is about changing lifestyle patterns.

Overweight people often fool themselves into believing that they don't consume a lot of calories. Yet they will eat every time they think they might be hungry. And their idea of hunger is easily aroused by other factors such as emotion.

Being hungry sometimes is part of being normal, not a reason to eat. The more often you eat to overcome it the more often you will feel hungry and the less you will tolerate it.

Regular exercise is a huge factor. It increases the metabolic rate and burns more calories even at idle times. Like fad diets fad gym memberships will achieve very little.

The brain uses by far the most energy in the body. It uses the most when it is not consciously thinking. Seems like integrating and filing memories is the biggest task.

Yes and there are factors in the flora of the digestive tract that make some people get more from their food. Tough luck if you get the efficient digestive system. Not much you can do so focus on the other stuff.
As beso says it is not about returning to your normal eating patterns as these were what made you diet in the first place. You need to change your lifestyle, change what is normal to what keeps you at the weight you want. I have got into the routine were I didn't have time to snack between meals and now even when I can I just don't feel like it, feels like I'm forcing food in except for the three meals. Routine is a hard groove to break good or bad.
Like above say I think it's your lifestyle.

I was once plump, but slimed down to size 12, 5 years ago now, and still kept it off.
Like pastafreak said, I weigh myslef once a week, and if start to creep up then just make sure to eat more fruit and vegetables.
My mum's exactly the same. She's been heavier in the past, but has stayed at size 12 for past few years too.

Just shows that if change lifestyle then can change weight.

I do agree that some people are just born with fast metobylisims thow-so unfair!
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yes Jenni it'd be handy to have a fast metabolism. One of them last night put on 6.5kg but only 2 of that was fat, he'd rasied his metabolism by 30% and put on 4kg of muscle with no bleedin exercise, now I'm not usually an envious person but how jammy is that?!
Hehe.. I'm one of those type.. I can eat what i like, when i like and nothing changes.
However there is a downside that wasn't mentioned lastnight and that it seems impossible for me to put on any weight, I'm 56kgs /5ft 8inch height, 28 waist. In fact in the past I have managed to get to 59kgs but that took more than 6 months on a high carb/protien milk drink twice a day as well as usual meals, but I can lose that extra in less than a week and then its impossible to gain it again. I now use the milk drink as a supplement to my other meals just to maintain my weight....
I have seen my GP and after several visits and some tests it appears that its all down to metabolism....
Oh to be 10stone..... I dream.......
gordy are you like the chappie on the mr muscle advert???
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gordy.... shut up, just shut up! Seriously I suppose it aint all fun. Here's the opposite end for you. I can be half a stone heavier at bed time than I am 1st thing in the morning. I can lose a stone in a week and gain it again in 2 days!. If I work out with heavy weights I grow so fast I need new clothes. In my wardrobe I have a range of trousers ready to accomodate whatever size I am, ditto shirts! It's a constant battle, To be fair though If I really work out hard I can lose fat and pretty much eat what I fancy but it aint easy.
i am 15,9 lbs.....and 5.7-8 in height....struggled all my life like most on here...QUESTION- what price would u pay to be skinny? gastric bypass in india - �5,000........so its india for me !!!
Ive tried all my life to put weight on and couldnt, tho did recently put on a wee bit cos of no exercise sitting at this bl00dy pc, not that a soul even noticed
No Puddicat, not like Mr Muscle, thankfully.... without sounding vain, actually quite toned, but even that is natural, never worked out in a gym either, I am more like the oriental guy from the show, where his fat increases were low but the extra weight he put on was muscular and his metabolism increased too....

My point is that there is so much geared around dieting for overweight people but little to nothing for thin people who would love to put on weight. Its not as easy as just increasing your calorie intake...

All in all the TV show was an informative approach to issue I thought.

Hmmm... wonder whats for dinner tonight.........

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well it's cold comfort Gordy but if we were cave men you'd be he first to starve!
I have to disagree with you there.. you'd need to catch me first and then when your huffing and puffing and blowing out your ar5e... you'd be first on the menu.... us thin cavemen would feast for weeks....
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I'm not talking about eating you mate, if there was scarcity of food, you'd starve first!
Again R1, if it came to a shortage of food we would revert to type, after all we are supposed to be cavemen and if it came to a vote i'm sure we would agree that there is more eating in a fat caveman than in a thin caveman...

Survival of the fittest and all that..

I'm sure you've seen the film 'Alive'

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