Help From Irish Folk

[mallyh]

how do you pronounce Cloughmills please x

[vulcan42]

Cloffmills.

[mallyh]

thankyou ,i was hoping it was clockmills ,oh well back to the drawing board x

[jennyjoan]

I would have thought clorkmills

[Oldandconfused]

klokh-MILZ

[TheWinner]

Clough as a surname is pronounced Cluff.

https://www.howtopronounce.com/cloughmills

[elliemay1]

I still think you are right with Cloughmills, mallyh

[TheWinner]

Actually mallyh, I also think you are right. Here's a better link.
listen at 0.46

[mallyh]

thanks The Winner ,it does sound like clock xx

[Peter Pedant]

any linguists out there
clock anyway

the ch or gh sound was like ch in loch
( sounding it gives the 'g' in Dutch, very difficult for the English)
That went thro change and softened ( lenition) to a glottal stop - as in Essex - Bottle = /bo''ul/
or the classic - wha' ? in AB
and then went away completely

so vecht ( say as one wd think, became way in English)

Clockmills is half way frooda process

[Peter Pedant]

ah bless her, my old Irish English teacher who forged her degree in English from Cork

she heard us talk about Cromwell's sack of Drog-heeder

and told us - it was Drawder - completely smooth.

Later - much later - we were re told is was Drock-udder
and some said Dro' odder

which sort of gives the whole process of lenition of /gh/ sound in English

[Peter Pedant]

she got sacked
someone heard her speak and thought presumably that no one with an English degree cd say that and checked.

it was this guy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Andr%C3%A9_Robertson

yup my French teacher is in Wiki - not so inspiring when he was teaching me. I have to say I was shocked

[ichkeria]

It's pronounced as in "Lough" and usually spelled without the U
As is the nearby village of Clo(u)gh