Ed Davey Women Penis

[fender62]

another kier supporter, women and penises..meh.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1773467/ed-davey-women-penis-trans-lib-dem

[Untitled]

"because you cannot self declare sex no matter what the law says. It just enables opportunist blokes to get into the girls changing rooms or womens prisons etc."

having a GRC is irrelevant to accessing changing facilities

people also cannot choose which prisons they are sent to

[Deskdiary]

In the space of two days we have had untitled unsuccessfully argue that something that was blatantly racist wasn’t racist, and now women can have penises.

I think it’s fair to say untitled takes a contrary view for the sake of taking a contrary view. I have no issue with a contrary view, but the absurdity of untitled’s skewed view is breathtaking.

[naomi24]

Untitled, men can call themselves whatever they like but if they call themselves women they’re lying…. always.

[New Judge]

//...but by christ that is a very weak argument.//

Indeed it is. Particularly as I have little doubt that Mr Davey was not considering "intersex" people when he made his remark. As well as that, it is debateable whether such people can be considered "women".

[ToraToraTora]

22:33 assuming you are talking about by 22:29 post, No I am not I'm describing this sort of thing:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11731777/Trans-swimmer-Lia-Thomas-dropped-pants-exposed-male-genitalia-womens-locker-room.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-64729029

they are NOT "intersex" or "Transgender", they are a couple of blokes who have worked out how stupid society is.

[Untitled]

"I think it’s fair to say untitled takes a contrary view for the sake of taking a contrary view"

goodness you will do anything other than think won't you

[Untitled]

would you care to explain what those cases have to do with gender recognition certificates toratoratora?

[Deskdiary]

Untitled at 22.55pm - Clearly irony is an alien concept for you.

[ToraToraTora]

nothing, you seem to latch on to GRCs for some reason, I don't give a rats April about a pointless law that's just part of the overall madness. Those examples are examples of how opportunist blokes have taken advantage of our new stupid society. I don't know why you fixated on GRCs they are not needed to make a mockery of common sense.

[fender62]

all this trans business seems like a fashion fetish, i remember when flared jeans trousers were the vogue thing to wear, like any fashion it went out of style, besides they flapped and the bottoms got wet, or it's a lot of male militancy, because the guys are not real women and never will be, maybe they get into a huff because they do not mensturate, all very odd, the women who want to be men dont seem to be militant radical...maybe they just want to be left alone, without the fuss..

[Untitled]

"nothing, you seem to latch on to GRCs for some reason, I don't give a rats April about a pointless law that's just part of the overall madness"

well i was asking you what your problem was with the law providing GRCs which is about the most basic human right you can extend to trans people and you have chosen to bang on about instances which you admit have nothing to do with them... you're all over the place lol

[barry1010]

Women who call themselves men don't need to be militant as generally they are not gaining the biological advantages that men who call themselves women do, so there is much less opposition.
Also a woman calling herself a man is not particularly threatening if she chooses to drop her pants in a changing room full of men.

No physical advantages in sport or in the workplace, no threat in mens 'safe' spaces.

I have yet to see a woman claiming to be a man advertising mens aftershave or Speedos .

[Bobbisox1]

Barry answered you in my TV thread, ( sorry for the intrusion Fender)

[barry1010]

This woman has seemingly lived as a man for years and sexually assaulted a woman https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12115949/Female-accused-tricking-woman-having-sex-pretending-man-guilty.html

[Untitled]

“ I have yet to see a woman claiming to be a man advertising mens aftershave or Speedo”

trans men have advertised gillette , calvin klein, Men’s Health and adidas swimwear

when people say that trans men are “less militant” what they mean is that trans men don’t bother them as much as trans women do

[ClareTG0ld]

Thanks for trying, at least, untitled.

[barry1010]

Untitled, I have seen those adverts.
Do trans men not 'bother' people as much as trans women because men don't complain about them using the men's loos and changing rooms, nor competing as men against men in sport? Do people object to trans men being sent to men's prisons?

[barry1010]

Woops, I meant I have not seen those adverts