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Ah, I see Hyde and Hyde are in residence.
Carry on chaps! Lol
You can PMSL all you like mate.

I have your number.
// losing a VONC means the government has to change//
yes - I dont think anyone has tried hanging on !
you just go on voting down their measures...

the only principles ( ha! did you see what I just did, I wrote 'principles' hahahaha governing this are
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lascelles_Principles

and of course it all depends if they apply

made up for waffer thin majorities and a recent election,
but cd you extend it ?

(3) - can you find someone else to do the job ( PM that is!) - and I think the answer is yes.

Losing a vote is significant - but you wang thro a confidence vote ( er and win that is!) and that 'makes it OK'

Even scraping a vote may be fatal ( eventually)
"After a sensational debate in the Lords, which was heavily reported in the press in salacious detail, the bill was narrowly passed by the upper house. However, because the margin was so slim and public unrest over the bill was significant, the government withdrew the bill before it was debated by the House of Commons, " - because if the bill failed the govt ( or ministry) was out of power.

Diana - no the King's divorce bill 1820 - Clause 2 had a majority of less than 10 and the house managers advised the govt to abandon the Commons readings
youngmafbog
//You can PMSL all you like mate.

I have your number.//

So you keep telling me in your other incarnation.
Just pointless posturing. Starmer is not going to make it. As with the Tories and Johnson, Labour supporters need to think who's next. And it'll be a problem. The ghastly deputy leader is not up to the job. Nandy? Think not. So we're left with...
Paigntonian
//Just pointless posturing. Starmer is not going to make it. As with the Tories and Johnson, Labour supporters need to think who's next. And it'll be a problem. The ghastly deputy leader is not up to the job. Nandy? Think not. So we're left with...//

I believe Nandy isn’t too bad. Rayner is far too shouty.
Thornberry is decent, Streeting is one for the future.
As I’ve said previously it’s a shame it’ll not be Chris Bryant.
There are decent people in both main parties but they’re inexplicably always overlooked or avoid the highest positions within.

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