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Bazile | 14:34 Fri 03rd Feb 2017 | News
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38853390



'Sane' people can be unpredictable , of course .

However i would have thought that if you suffer from mental problems , the probability is increased among that group of people , acting to the detriment of others, by owning a firearm .

Is this a case of the new Administration wanting to repeal everything that the Obama administration enacted ?

Seems that way to me .

What's your view ?
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This obsession with the Second Amendment seems a feature of Right Wing politics in the States.

And yes, it is a form of Obama backlash by the Prickly President.
Mmm don't agree with this, not a good idea.
We know you have mental health issues, but you want a gun you can have a gun ! :-(
This quote from the piece caught my eye -

"But Republican lawmakers argued that the regulation reinforced negative stereotypes that people with mental disorders are dangerous."

I would argue that this is not actually true.

People with mental disorders are not, be default, dangerous, no argument there.

However, people with mental disorders and guns, are obviously dangerous, it takes no brains whatsoever to see that.

This is not about de-stigmatising the mentally ill by allowing them to have guns, it is about pandering to the right-wing voters who empower Republican Senators and the President, to ensure that such empowerment can be guaranteed going forward.

As to the second part of your OP - I think the Trump regime is only interested in dismantling the aspects of Obama's legislation that either disadvantages right-wing voters and business owners, or legislation that those same groups simply don't like.

I could respect - if obviously not agree with this naked pandering to the all-powerful NRA, if it were not dressed up in some seriously flawed nonsense about empowering mental ill citizens, when the only empowerment that are receiving is an addition set of opportunities to kill other citizens, or get themselves killed.

If that's President Trump's idea of 'forward thinking' - he'd better hope that none of the newly empowered mentally deficient citizens decides maybe he should not be around to do any more damage.
When the gun laws raise their ugly nasty murdering heads, I always like to quote the (tongue in cheek) comment by Ben Elton -

"Gun ownership is very simple - you just ask everyone if they would like to have a gun, and everyone who says yes is automatically barred from ever having one!"
Canary - //This obsession with the Second Amendment seems a feature of Right Wing politics in the States. //

Sadly, for all its sophistication and culture, there remains an aspect of the American psyche that insists on retaining that 'frontiersman' mentality, that a man is not a real man unless he is armed to be able to protect his homestead.

Quite how long it will take for such backwoods (backwards!) thinking to dissipate from the gene pool is anyone's guess, but legislation like this is never going to help.
there is an element of reversal but Obama did nothing gun law wise did he? The whole nation is wedded to the 2nd, no government is ever going to ween the septics off their current buns.
TTT - I am not aware of the details regarding any legislation President Obama tried and failed to implement, but his stance on gun laws was well known - I can only assume that his failure to move even slightly in terms of restricting guns would fall foul of your perception that the majority of the voting public thinks that the right to bear arms remains a good idea.

Of course the flaw in that view is that everyone who thinks having a gun is OK also thinks that they are safe and capable of having and using a gun. That kind of thinking gets people shot dead on a daily basis.
we should stop concerning ourselves.The US stance has always been incomprehensible to civilised people. The US gun lobby will say that the reason atrocities happen is because there are not enough guns. So every new born child must be issued with an RPG launcher, hand gun and Uzi 9mm at birth, then they will all be safe. Stop trying to reason with them, you cannot.
^ I agree, they will NEVER give up their guns ...
TTT - //Stop trying to reason with them, you cannot. //

I wasn't aware that I was!!
America have been hoodwinked into thinking that gun ownership is about rights and liberty by the people who make money by selling them guns.
Randy - I don't think they take much 'hoodwinking' - I do believe that the 'frontier mentality' is deeply buried in the modern American psyche, so it just needs a little prodding to move it into shoving dollars over gun shop counters.
There's 11,000 reasons why the American gun laws need looking at. 11,000 is the number of people that were killed last year by gunshot wounds. I don't know the figures for those people who were injured.
Entirely predictable Baz ! The Rednecks are winning.

But we knew that before the Election, so I for one am not surprised at all.

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