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Jennykenny | 09:00 Sat 12th Nov 2016 | Crosswords
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17. 25 left defender. (7)
25. Do what you do endlessly,17? That's you! (6)


One of these where a lot of the other answers depend on 25.
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Red back
Spider
..Spi(n) der (red, back)
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Many thanks.
I was vaguely thinking about snakes, but obviously not.
You're very welcome
Still baffled by 17, 25.

Why spi(n)?
Where's the definition for SPIDER in 25?

I'm generally a big fan of Paul but this is a real stinker.
Okay, so I see it now. Spiders spin webs.

I think it's pretty loose.

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