What Sort Of Turks Are They?

[-Talbot-]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36509914

[Svejk]

Endangered?

[Togo]

Not the delightful ones obviously.

[agchristie]

I wonder if those 11 MP's wished they could withdraw their vote - a form of cold Turkey?

[douglas9401]

They appear to be the kind that vote for Christmas.

[Svejk]

That's a cracker, douglas. Sorry for going off topic. (sort of)

[Gromit]

Germans of Turkish origin arguing about an incident 100 years ago is not really representative of the Turkish mentality.

The equivalent here might be if MPs voted to acknowledge the bombing of Dresden as a war crime. That would result in a very vociferous counter arguement.

Many UK MPs and public figures have received death threats for the most innocent of opinions, so you should not guage the population by the actions of a few.

Most of Europe are probably opining that the UK is full of thugs if they are judging us by the few idiots in Marseille.

[-Talbot-]

Gromit
Germans of Turkish origin arguing about an incident 100 years ago is not really representative of the Turkish mentality.


I think we would witness the Turkish mentality if any of those 11 visited Turkey. Erdogan is a nutcase and I wouldn't be surprised by any actions he sanctioned.
Why does Merkel love him so?

[Gromit]

I agee about Erdogan. A nast piece of work and a dictator in the making.

I thought you were saying the death threats prove that Tirks should not be allowed here (there are actually quite a few here already).

[Togo]

Gromit, we note once again your tacit support for a deed condemned by most of the world's governments as being genocide, the slaughter of in excess of 1,000,000 Christian Armenians, with the throwaway, "incident a hundred years ago". Then to try and muddy the pool further by comparing it to the bombing of Dresden, whilst fighting a vicious Nazi regime who had been bombing British cities and civilians for years, is heinous to say the least. If those two stances were not contentious enough you then proceed to somehow include people who, with every latest news report, now appear to have been the victims of planned Russian thugs attacking them.

[Gromit]

I have no problem calling the massacres in Armenia, genocide. My support is not tacit.
I do not think the bombing of Dresen was a war crime, I was saying any Mp that voted that it was would receive death threats.
I cannot defend the drunken English hooligans in France. They do not represent me. If you think they are the victims, it is no wonder you are deluded.

[Togo]

Strange that from virtue signaller in chief. "They do not represent me". Ahh that's OK then, I don't care what happened, but I do like to use the event as a warped example for my brief. The question is not who represents you Gromit, more "what do you represent"? I think the Turkish reaction, from the President down, is wholly representative of the Turkish attitude to the crimes committed.

[Gromit]

Togo

The Turks are in denial about a crime that they committed a century ago before they became a Republic. That does not make every present day living Turk a bad person.
The British have a few skeletons in our past, but that does not automatically mean we are bad.

[Gromit]

The English football hooligans in France are all nice boys, who were minding their own business when they became victims of those nasty Russians.

Do you really believe that tosh?

Those evil UEFA foreigners are now threatening to disqualify the English football team if the English fans allow themselves to be beaten up again. Yet another reason to vote OUT.

[Togo]

Perhaps the Turks will apologise, just like the British government will then, swiftly followed by the Russian organised thugs.

//The English football hooligans in France are all nice boys, who were minding their own business when they became victims of those nasty Russians. //

Please all note that the above guff in brackets was composed by Gromit, the purpose for it is yours to decipher.

[Togo]

Talbot, sorry about the introduction of the football related disturbances into your op, despite there being a dedicated thread on the subject.

[jno]

any genocide was committed under the Ottoman regime. A lot of Turks died overthrowing that regime. It's understandable if they don't feel like bearing any responsibility for the actions of the sultans they got rid of. A bit like accusing modern Britons of responsibility for their slave-owning forebears (and I know how cross that makes modern Britons).