Society & Culture1 min ago
Why Are Answerbank's Left
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leaning posters so conspicuous by their absence on threads about current troubles re the migrant/refugee issues?
You must have some views on it ... what are they?
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Right leaning posters, no rants about muesli or knitting with yogurt, thanks!
You must have some views on it ... what are they?
Ps
Right leaning posters, no rants about muesli or knitting with yogurt, thanks!
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Some interesting posts on this thread.
I've enjoyed reading it.
“When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”
Socrates, circa ages ago.
Found this site an interesting read concerning blogs and forums.
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I've enjoyed reading it.
“When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”
Socrates, circa ages ago.
Found this site an interesting read concerning blogs and forums.
http://
The site has a bias of right leaning posters. Some of these posters are rude and unpleasant, this is accepted as the right's dominate the site. Another example is R&S where people of faith are regularly mocked because the site is dominated by Atheists.
Eventually the people with opposing views will just stop airing them.
Eventually the people with opposing views will just stop airing them.
Answerprancer
"Why are you opening this hornet's nest?"
"It is called debate".
No, it's called "let's you and them fight while I sit back and enjoy my trolling".
Tell me how your reply is anything but trolling, Answerprancer?
You haven't addressed the question you have just attacked me.
So either posters don't think there is any alternative to how the immigrant/refugee crisis is being handled or they just care?
"Why are you opening this hornet's nest?"
"It is called debate".
No, it's called "let's you and them fight while I sit back and enjoy my trolling".
Tell me how your reply is anything but trolling, Answerprancer?
You haven't addressed the question you have just attacked me.
So either posters don't think there is any alternative to how the immigrant/refugee crisis is being handled or they just care?
I have shamelessly nicked this link from lindapalmara ...
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Understanding how African and Asian men view and treat women in their own countries is crucial when dealing with the migrant crisis – because only when we understand their cultural practices can we help them to integrate. They need to understand that women are deemed equal to men in Western societies.
Here in the West, we need to stop burying our heads in the sand and accept that Asian, Arab and African men grow up in societies where misogyny is the cultural norm. We need to talk about it so we can change it.
Ignoring it, like the BBC did, is just condoning it. If we are allowing people to come in, we must also make sure that we are not blinded by some truths which are hard to swallow.
It is a betrayal of the truth, of the majority of decent migrants and – most of all – of women who must not see progress turned back for the sake of accommodating a medieval world view.
Well said Saira Khan.
For the last year+ I have been following 6 Muslim men and 6 Muslim women
on Twitter, some of the spats between the men and women have been very enlightening.
Still ... who cares?
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Understanding how African and Asian men view and treat women in their own countries is crucial when dealing with the migrant crisis – because only when we understand their cultural practices can we help them to integrate. They need to understand that women are deemed equal to men in Western societies.
Here in the West, we need to stop burying our heads in the sand and accept that Asian, Arab and African men grow up in societies where misogyny is the cultural norm. We need to talk about it so we can change it.
Ignoring it, like the BBC did, is just condoning it. If we are allowing people to come in, we must also make sure that we are not blinded by some truths which are hard to swallow.
It is a betrayal of the truth, of the majority of decent migrants and – most of all – of women who must not see progress turned back for the sake of accommodating a medieval world view.
Well said Saira Khan.
For the last year+ I have been following 6 Muslim men and 6 Muslim women
on Twitter, some of the spats between the men and women have been very enlightening.
Still ... who cares?
For my part, I'd say that in general I am finding AB debates increasingly exhausting -- in particular the baseless but irrefutable accusations of brainwashing -- but that's a more general issue than the specifics of my (relative) silence on the migrant issue. I can't honestly be bothered tracking down my posts so far but my position could probably best be summarised as "open but not gaping" when it comes to border control:
-- I don't see how the crisis is in any way solved by locking down our borders. Sure, we get to stop worrying about it, but the humanitarian crisis would roll on, if not be exacerbated horrifically, because then new arrivals to the refugee camps wouldn't be replacing but joining longer-term residents. I don't even want to think about the horrors that would emerge if two million people were squeezed into small camps on the Syria-Turkey border for -- well, quite a while, since there's no signs of the War there ending any time soon.
-- On the other hand, mass migration on the scale and speed we are seeing is unsustainable unless carefully controlled and monitored. The response from the EU has been pretty pathetic, neither one nor the other, and in particular the collapse of any semblance of monitoring of new arrivals has to frustrate anyone no matter their stance on the issue.
-- It seems more than likely that the recent Cologne assaults were, in large part, carried out by new arrivals. This should horrify people but it shouldn't be used as an excuse to shut up shop either. I've never liked the "class detention" response to criminal behaviour. People should be held accountable for their own actions, and never the actions of others around them, and in particular genuine refugees, of which there are many, shouldn't be penalised for the criminal behaviour of others with fewer scruples.
Very little that happens is likely to change my position above -- if further migrants from the last year are associated with criminal activity, it still doesn't reflect on the majority, and it seems only to further support the idea that better monitoring was needed, rather than stringent caps.
-- I don't see how the crisis is in any way solved by locking down our borders. Sure, we get to stop worrying about it, but the humanitarian crisis would roll on, if not be exacerbated horrifically, because then new arrivals to the refugee camps wouldn't be replacing but joining longer-term residents. I don't even want to think about the horrors that would emerge if two million people were squeezed into small camps on the Syria-Turkey border for -- well, quite a while, since there's no signs of the War there ending any time soon.
-- On the other hand, mass migration on the scale and speed we are seeing is unsustainable unless carefully controlled and monitored. The response from the EU has been pretty pathetic, neither one nor the other, and in particular the collapse of any semblance of monitoring of new arrivals has to frustrate anyone no matter their stance on the issue.
-- It seems more than likely that the recent Cologne assaults were, in large part, carried out by new arrivals. This should horrify people but it shouldn't be used as an excuse to shut up shop either. I've never liked the "class detention" response to criminal behaviour. People should be held accountable for their own actions, and never the actions of others around them, and in particular genuine refugees, of which there are many, shouldn't be penalised for the criminal behaviour of others with fewer scruples.
Very little that happens is likely to change my position above -- if further migrants from the last year are associated with criminal activity, it still doesn't reflect on the majority, and it seems only to further support the idea that better monitoring was needed, rather than stringent caps.
I didn't answer your question Tall-bottom because I didn't fall for the trap.
You have a track record of button pushing and manipulation afaic.
My underlining of this is not "trolling" I've never been one for subterfuge here, I always try to be straight up and direct with my postings and the above is what I believe you were doing.
"Looks to me like Talbot hasn't received any 'proper' replies to his question".
Quite possibly because others have also seen it as manipulative and/or done for 'sport'.
You have a track record of button pushing and manipulation afaic.
My underlining of this is not "trolling" I've never been one for subterfuge here, I always try to be straight up and direct with my postings and the above is what I believe you were doing.
"Looks to me like Talbot hasn't received any 'proper' replies to his question".
Quite possibly because others have also seen it as manipulative and/or done for 'sport'.
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''No, my fellow liberals, these issues cannot be brushed under the carpet or simply willed away. They are not going anywhere, anytime soon. So how can we address this sensibly, without bursting a blood vessel in our Right eye, or missing the blind spot in our Left?''
More wise words from someone in a far better position to talk about the current situation than I'm not a racist cos I don't say owt Answerbankers.
''No, my fellow liberals, these issues cannot be brushed under the carpet or simply willed away. They are not going anywhere, anytime soon. So how can we address this sensibly, without bursting a blood vessel in our Right eye, or missing the blind spot in our Left?''
More wise words from someone in a far better position to talk about the current situation than I'm not a racist cos I don't say owt Answerbankers.
http://
''To notice that, according to the police, the vast majority of perpetrators were from one culture, and the victims from another, and then not to discuss this would be a guaranteed way of ensuring it happens again. And again. The overly politically correct who prefer not to mention this blindingly obvious factor believe they are on the side of the angels whereas in fact they are the ones who in the long run let everyone down. Their timidity, or perhaps hypocrisy and betrayal of their liberal values, gets more women attacked.''
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