Smoking In Pubs?

[GreenDayGirl]

My dad plays gigs in pubs for a living and buisness has been going down ever since he law was past for no smoking indoors. Whatever pub you go in they say they know they won't last much longer and it won't get better again because people can no longer smoke indoors. Then you get the arguments about health issues but its up to you if you go in. I think it should be up to the place if they want people to smoke or not. Now E-Cigarettes are here but people are now even saying you shouldn't smoke them inside because of health issues. Nanny state? I think so. People can't make their own chooses now.

[Pete65]

What about the staff who work there?
Don't they matter?

[Dizmo]

I spent years and years working behind bars and I welcomed the smoking ban with open arms. I suppose it was up to me whether or not I was going to go in there or not but had I said no then I'd of ended up out of a job. The smoking ban didn't change things - more non smokers started coming out and bringing their families along with them. The price (increase) of alcohol has caused most of the problems!

[Buenchico]

Your post ignores the health of the staff working in pubs.

Well before the anti-smoking legislation came in I researched a possible article on whether the existing health and safety laws already obliged pub licensees to prohibit smoking on their premises in order to safeguard the health of their staff. The advice that I received from the solicitor representing Action on Smoking and Health was that it most definitely did but that nobody had the money to take a test case before the courts. So the subsequent legislation only reinforced what was already the case, that nobody should have their health put at risk through working in an unsafe environment. (i.e. through having to breath in secondary smoke).

[Dizmo]

We had the chain smokers threatening to never come in again. Funny because not one person stopped coming! They just went outside for a cigarette.

[Dizmo]

Chris: I know that glass collectors were not allowed to go into the dedicated smoking room (before the introduction of the smoking ban) until they reached the age of 16. Most places adhered to that rule - usually because the parents of said 13 year old las (who was coughing her lungs up after a shift) would go in and threaten to bad mouth the landlord/lady/steward/stewardess. It happened to me when I was the Steward for a social club - I had specifically told all staff under 18 (or staff over 18 who were non smokers) not to go into the tap room whilst people were smoking.

[SpikeyBush]

Two words. Roy Castle.

[GreenDayGirl]

I throw my hands up I didn't explain fully. I meant I think even smoking rooms should be provided and smoking should be optional and regulated by staff. If people complain it will stop. And possibly not in peak times Friday, Saturday nights etc.. Also staff if they say i dont like it then no. Im not saying every pub must be filled with smoke. I understand theres health issues and that it kills! I just wanted to know your opinions, a casual question.And please may I not be sworn at. I find it offensive.

[GreenDayGirl]

Look I don't agree with it. I'm not saying what you think I am. I'm just saying what I've heard been said. I'm not launching a complain I was repeating what I've heard people say. I care about the staff, children etc. Its just what I've heard from people in old country pubs. Lay off the abuse?

[pastafreak]

Who or what is fake,retrosun? All the posters on here...other than the OP,are longtime regulars.

[Pete65]

Greendaygirl, I am an ex-smoker.
Been stopped for 8 years.
I firmly believe smoking should not be allowed anywhere.
Pubs are far, far healthier places without cigarette smoke.
Barmaids have even told me it is great to go home without their hair and clothes stinking of smoke.

[GreenDayGirl]

Yes retrosun I have. I didn't explain properly. I was opening up an idea. I just didn't expect to be abused. Sorry if I have offended anyone. Thank you for reading this.