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Bible Prophecies
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The Bible is full of prophecies, and those dealing with the end times describe with uncanny accuracy events in our present day world.
This cannot be mere coincidence.
Ignoring it must be a choice to indulge a personal bias.
This cannot be mere coincidence.
Ignoring it must be a choice to indulge a personal bias.
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Final proof, if proof be needed, of my level of bible ignorance is that my first encounter with the word "Maccabees" was the film title "I (heart) Maccabees" which was actually not that long ago. (I have not seen the film and would be obliged to google it if you asked me for a plot synopsis, so please do not).
You can, hopefully, picture the repeated double takes I went through, since then as it began appearing in Twitter exchanges (theist vs. atheist) and, lately, American politics.
I really must consult Wiki to find out what they are.
You can, hopefully, picture the repeated double takes I went through, since then as it began appearing in Twitter exchanges (theist vs. atheist) and, lately, American politics.
I really must consult Wiki to find out what they are.
@SirOracle
//So it is clear to me that St. John the Evangelist is not one of the authors that you refer to as being acceptable to the Roman Church as a writer who had never set eyes on Christ.//
I was not thinking about his acceptability to the Church of Rome, I was merely alluding to the unliklihood of a contemporary of Christ to still be cogent and either writing or dictating a book in 96 A.D.
Isn't "three score years and ten" a biblical phrase?
This is John the fisherman, is it not? He owned his own boat, was skilled at fishing and experienced enough to handle his boat in a storm. So I doubt he would have been in his teens or early 20s during his time as a disciple. He would have been about the same age as Christ, making him a nonagenarian at the time of writing Revelations. That might explain the imagery and doom and gloom content.
//So it is clear to me that St. John the Evangelist is not one of the authors that you refer to as being acceptable to the Roman Church as a writer who had never set eyes on Christ.//
I was not thinking about his acceptability to the Church of Rome, I was merely alluding to the unliklihood of a contemporary of Christ to still be cogent and either writing or dictating a book in 96 A.D.
Isn't "three score years and ten" a biblical phrase?
This is John the fisherman, is it not? He owned his own boat, was skilled at fishing and experienced enough to handle his boat in a storm. So I doubt he would have been in his teens or early 20s during his time as a disciple. He would have been about the same age as Christ, making him a nonagenarian at the time of writing Revelations. That might explain the imagery and doom and gloom content.
Wiki
/The author names himself in the text as "John", but his precise identity remains a point of academic debate. Second century Christian writers such as Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Melito the bishop of Sardis, and Clement of Alexandria and the author of the Muratorian fragment identify John the Apostle as the "John" of Revelation.[1] Modern scholarship generally takes a different view,[2] and many consider that nothing can be known about the author except that he was a Christian prophet.[3] Some modern scholars characterise Revelation's author as a putative figure which they call "John of Patmos". The bulk of traditional sources date the book to the reign of the emperor Domitian (AD 81-96), and the evidence tends to confirm this.[4]/
So much for certainty SirOracle.
/The author names himself in the text as "John", but his precise identity remains a point of academic debate. Second century Christian writers such as Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Melito the bishop of Sardis, and Clement of Alexandria and the author of the Muratorian fragment identify John the Apostle as the "John" of Revelation.[1] Modern scholarship generally takes a different view,[2] and many consider that nothing can be known about the author except that he was a Christian prophet.[3] Some modern scholars characterise Revelation's author as a putative figure which they call "John of Patmos". The bulk of traditional sources date the book to the reign of the emperor Domitian (AD 81-96), and the evidence tends to confirm this.[4]/
So much for certainty SirOracle.
/More "nutters"write articles in it than anyone else. /
The only exception being the bible perhaps...seriously SirO do you think that rubbishing a source of information without evidence is any kind of argument?
The bible is one of the most dubious pieces of literature to exist apart from the Koran yet you seem to believe it all implicitly. Is there any part of it that you find just a little bit incredible...apart from the obvious contradictions of course.
The only exception being the bible perhaps...seriously SirO do you think that rubbishing a source of information without evidence is any kind of argument?
The bible is one of the most dubious pieces of literature to exist apart from the Koran yet you seem to believe it all implicitly. Is there any part of it that you find just a little bit incredible...apart from the obvious contradictions of course.
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