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goodlife | 11:35 Tue 28th Jul 2015 | Religion & Spirituality
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Ones love for truth is measured in proportion to ones dedication to their efforts to pursue it and refusal to settle for anything less than a comprehensive understanding of its meaning.

The pursuit of truth begins with an investigation into the means and process by which knowledge is obtained and verified. The truth is a pursuit abandoned the moment one chooses simply to believe.
Clanad, ^That's why I appear 'immovable'. Presented with rationality, I'll move.
Polonian? A hit, a very palpable hit!
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To get the issue between creation and evolution in clear focus, you must strip away the fuzzy shroud of dogma carried over from 17th-century religion. Then let us compare, point by point, what the Bible says with what evolutionists teach and see which agrees with established facts.

First, the Bible says that God is the source of life. (Ps. 36:9) Life did not arise and cannot arise spontaneously from lifeless material. This is in complete agreement with scientific laws and experimental tests.

The laws of statistics, the law of entropy, calculations from thermodynamics and kinetics all converge on the conclusion that spontaneous generation of life cannot occur. Older reports of spontaneous generation are given no credence since the experiments of Pasteur. In controlled experiments, it just does not happen.
Examination of soil from the moon and chemical tests on the surface of Mars verify that life has not arisen on those planets.

Secondly, the Bible says that every living thing brings forth its own kind of offspring. (Genesis 1:11, 21, 24) Neither the evidence from paleontology nor experiments in breeding or mutation have ever been shown to refute this principle. Fossil remains from ancient geologic strata of species that are still alive are identical with present-day forms. Wide diversity within a given kind may appear both in nature and in breeding experiments, but in no case does it ever pass beyond the limits to produce a new kind.

Thirdly, with respect to man the Bible discloses the time of his beginning, about 6,000 years ago. (Plants and animals have been here much longer.) With this date history and archaeology are in close agreement. Claims for older human fossils by evolutionists are subject to dispute and do not disprove the Bible record.
Goodlife, …//, with respect to man the Bible discloses the time of his beginning, about 6,000 years ago. ….With this date history and archaeology are in close agreement.//

They’re not – but you’ll believe it anyway.
// Life ... cannot arise spontaneously from lifeless material //

Which begs the old question of ... If there was a God, where would he have come from???
goodlife //The laws of statistics, the law of entropy, calculations from thermodynamics and kinetics all converge on the conclusion that spontaneous generation of life cannot occur. //

No they don't.

Statistics. Recent observations of a large number of stars indicates that planets are quite common. Some are potentially at the right temperature for life. Remember we are looking at an infinitesimal part of the Universe which extend to the limits of human contemplation.

Entropy and thermodynamic limitations are fiction. There is energy available in the system to organise structures. This is exactly the kind of niche life occupies on Earth.

Life is nothing more than extreme crystals. Self replication was already happening with mineral crystals. Carbon got involved and self replication continued becoming ever more elaborate.

//Older reports of spontaneous generation are given no credence since the experiments of Pasteur. In controlled experiments, it just does not happen.//

It did not happen under the particular conditions tested over infinitesimally short times. The Universe had than thirteen billion years to do it.

Ironically you are faced with the same problem of proving a negative as atheists not being able to prove there isn't a god. Nobody can prove that abiogenesis is impossible under all possible conditions. There are too many variations to test.
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For you problem and those who deny the existence of a Creator, there is the far greater problem of the origin of life itself.

There was a time when spontaneous generation (called abiogenesis, meaning origin from nonlife) was believed to produce life. Worms developed out of putrid flesh, lice from dirt, frogs from the mud of pools, etc.

But experiments of nearly a hundred years demolished that theory.

If it is argued that abiogenesis does not occur now but did occur in bygone ages, that is merely speculation.

This is not a scientific argument, since it would not be based upon observation and experiment, but rather upon blind assertions that can neither be observed nor proved.
That life exists is self-evident. No proof required.

Life, through evolution, provides the means and process by and for which conscious intelligent purposefully creative beings could arise apart from which no means or process exists. It stands to reason therefore that we created the myth of god, not vice versa.

If one loves and desires to know the truth it is the myth that must first be cast aside paving the way for an honest genuine pursuit of the truth inherent in knowledge of the means and process by which the truth is revealed.

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