Lets Suppose For A Minute That Jesus Actually Existed...

[RATTER15]

and he appeared in today's world, what would he make of today's Christians, their big elaborate churches and cathedrals, the pope and the Vatican and all their wealth etc...

I would imagine he would probably collapse in tears!

[Hymie]

‘Lets Suppose For A Minute That Jesus Actually Existed…’

Although I am an atheist, historians are generally of the view that Jesus (the person whose exploits are told within the 4 gospels of the New Testament), did actually exist – and is not some fictional character.

[naomi24]

I think he existed, but I'm pretty sure he wasn't who he is claimed to be.

[Hymie]

naomi24 - I would agree with that (because God does not exist).

[Samuraisan]

Or a schizophrenic like Moses ans Mohammed

[agchristie]

He would say there has been a reBRAND ;-)

[-Talbot-]

Lets Suppose For A Minute That Jesus Actually Existed...

and he appeared in today's world, what would he make of today's Christians, their big elaborate churches and cathedrals, the pope and the Vatican and all their wealth etc...



I would love to hear his views on easter eggs.

[Zacs-Master]

....not to mention Christ Mass.

[DaisyNonna]

Why not just shine for yourself Jordy?
Religion does not have the monopoly on morality.

[birdie1971]

Jesus claimed to be the son of God - the living progeny of the creator of the entire universe. That's a big claim by any measure. And one that is not supported by any substantiate evidence whatsoever.

All of the 'miracles' apparently performed by Jesus are anecdotal. Not a shred of proof exists for any one of them. Turning water into wine? Anecdotal. Feeding the 5000? Anecdotal. Raising Lazarus from the dead? Anecdotal and monumentally stupid: even if one were to truly believe that Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead, not one question was asked of Lazarus about the state of being dead. This is an absolutely astonishing omission. Lazarus could have been the one and only person ever in the history of mankind to give us a glimpse into the afterlife but instead he is simply left to wander off - no questions asked. Readers of the bible can only conclude that such deep questions are beyond the understanding of us mere mortals.

I am of the opinion that Jesus (ie. the biblical account of the man) didn't exist. He is an archetype - someone to look up to and aspire to be. But a real person? No. If he were, he would have been written about in the contemporary texts of the time. His existence would have been widely documented in Roman texts... but it wasn't. His death was, according to scripture, accompanied by earthquakes and a three hour darkness that descended during the day: nothing of which is recorded in any historical document.

While writing this I am reminded of the news reports broadcast by the state of North Korea on the death of Kim Jong-il whose death was apparently coincidental with strange events...
http://goo.gl/N53k9

All propaganda and all false.

If the biblical Jesus did exist and were he to return, he would probably drop dead in despair at what has been made in his name.

[Hymie]

The gospels were written more than 50 years after Jesus’s death – given the inability of today’s journalist to get the facts correct less than 24 hours after the event, it is hardly surprising that much of the gospels content is likely to have been exaggerated over the passage of time.

[mikey4444]

We were discussing this the other day and Naomi thought that Jesus, were he alive today, would be advocating a vote for Labour, and who am I to gainsay Naomi ( ! )

[jd_1984]

If he only ever existed as a simple carpenter he would probably be a bit overwhelmed!!

[sandyRoe]

I've always thought that the raising of Lazarus was an ill considered miracle. After his resurrection he would have been pointed at and, people being what they are, taunted with calls of, 'Undead', and worse.
Sometimes it's better to let sleeping dogs lie.

[agchristie]

Mikey,

If birdie's post is wrong and Jesus did perform all those wonderful feats, the forthcoming election would be a Labour landslide if he was alive today!!

[mikey4444]

agchristie....If Jesus were around today, his "miracles" would be examined in minute and exacting detail, by every media organisation in the world. But as I am an Atheist, he would have a job on his hands to convince me !

[1ozzy]

Well he probably would collapse in tears, but not from the pain of being nailed to a cross, coz that's illegal these days.
More so from seeing how mankind has advanced, if you are a believer of course.

[sandyRoe]

Would he be as ease in the company of people who were intensely relaxed about some becoming filthily rich? He'd hardly be a Blairite, then?

[mikey4444]

sandy....he would hardly have been an advocate for the Tory Party either !

I think he would have been on the picket lines with the Miners, rather than the other way around. At least that is the way that I was brought up to believe Jesus would have behaved !