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Is Marriage Becoming An Out Dated Institution?
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It is the nature of man not to lead a solitary life but to try to settle down and have children.(mark 10:6-9)
However, marriage has become less and less popular. Is it the divorce rate that scares people off or the way society has changed in recent years?
However, marriage has become less and less popular. Is it the divorce rate that scares people off or the way society has changed in recent years?
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Goodlife - “... [the verses] were not written by Mark but were added,so do your home work...”
As has already been pointed out, “Mark” didn't write anything at all. The authors of the Gospels are unknown. That is why I suggested that the claims made within them are not to be taken too seriously. I suggest it is you that does some homework in this regard.
As has already been pointed out, “Mark” didn't write anything at all. The authors of the Gospels are unknown. That is why I suggested that the claims made within them are not to be taken too seriously. I suggest it is you that does some homework in this regard.
Idiosyncrasy - “... The King James Version and other older translations present those verses as if they were part of the original text. The New Revised Standard Version, and The New King James Version note that those verses do not appear in most of the oldest manuscripts of Mark’s Gospel...”
I know. But the fact that they exist in some versions of the Bible is a little embarrassing isn't it?
“... But even if these verses were authentic, they do not command the handling of serpents or the drinking of poison, and they say nothing of fire...”
It matters not whether these actions are commanded. The unfounded and potentially dangerous claim is that a “believer” will be unharmed by venomous snakes and deadly poison.
To be fair, this isn't the most ludicrous claim made in the Bible. And what's this about fire? Who mentioned that?
I know. But the fact that they exist in some versions of the Bible is a little embarrassing isn't it?
“... But even if these verses were authentic, they do not command the handling of serpents or the drinking of poison, and they say nothing of fire...”
It matters not whether these actions are commanded. The unfounded and potentially dangerous claim is that a “believer” will be unharmed by venomous snakes and deadly poison.
To be fair, this isn't the most ludicrous claim made in the Bible. And what's this about fire? Who mentioned that?
EDDIE51 //beso>
Bride and groom are virgins until their wedding night? or does it not work like that now? :-) //
There would not be many marriages in the western world at all if that was enforced.
I read an interesting article about what happens to people who delay the experience of sex until very late. Just as it is with language there is a time when the human body and mind are ready to learn. Miss that window and it closes.
There are classic cases of children growing through early childhood in isolation and are subsequently unable to learn to speak. Similarly remaining a virgin until "meeting the right person" in one's late twenties generally results in permanent sexual dysfunction.
Bride and groom are virgins until their wedding night? or does it not work like that now? :-) //
There would not be many marriages in the western world at all if that was enforced.
I read an interesting article about what happens to people who delay the experience of sex until very late. Just as it is with language there is a time when the human body and mind are ready to learn. Miss that window and it closes.
There are classic cases of children growing through early childhood in isolation and are subsequently unable to learn to speak. Similarly remaining a virgin until "meeting the right person" in one's late twenties generally results in permanent sexual dysfunction.
Not true, when you read it, is has been said that to understand our neighbor better is to love him more, and while that may not be always true, it certainly is true regarding Mark and his Gospel.
Nine fragments from the Dead Sea Scroll collection are claimed by Spanish Jesuit scholar José O’Callaghan to be part of the Greek Scriptures. One fragment, little larger than a thumb print, is dated by him at about 50 C.E. Assumed to be part of Mark 6:52, 53,
If you spend more time understanding the Bible,here you could have in mind the science of archaeology, which in recent times has corroborated much Bible history and prophecy, sometimes by means of discovered monuments or other stone objects. There were specific words that had to be spoken on that occasion back there, and if Jesus’ disciples had not uttered them the very stones would have. (Luke 19:1-40)
Nine fragments from the Dead Sea Scroll collection are claimed by Spanish Jesuit scholar José O’Callaghan to be part of the Greek Scriptures. One fragment, little larger than a thumb print, is dated by him at about 50 C.E. Assumed to be part of Mark 6:52, 53,
If you spend more time understanding the Bible,here you could have in mind the science of archaeology, which in recent times has corroborated much Bible history and prophecy, sometimes by means of discovered monuments or other stone objects. There were specific words that had to be spoken on that occasion back there, and if Jesus’ disciples had not uttered them the very stones would have. (Luke 19:1-40)
Back to marriage, to some the evidence is that a large percentage of people do not view marriage as a lifetime contract if it interferes with their own life-styles and desires.
It would almost seem that as easily as one sheds a coat or a hat, others shed a marriage mate, never thinking for a moment about the advice Jesus gave to those who enter into the marriage relationship.( Matthew 19:6)
So to have such an attitude brings us face to face with one of mankind’s greatest problems, that of selfishness. For generally it is selfishness that lies at the root of marriage problems.
It would almost seem that as easily as one sheds a coat or a hat, others shed a marriage mate, never thinking for a moment about the advice Jesus gave to those who enter into the marriage relationship.( Matthew 19:6)
So to have such an attitude brings us face to face with one of mankind’s greatest problems, that of selfishness. For generally it is selfishness that lies at the root of marriage problems.
Not true, the Bible defines the true measure of life as qualitative rather than quantitative. Simply length of years is not life in its full sense.
The astronauts have brought stones back from the moon that have been dated into the billions of years, but those stones have not lived.
And what if a man has lived to be a hundred, or two hundred years? If he has done nothing useful, or, perhaps worse, if he has misused or abused his life to the harm of others, would it not have been better if he had not been born? (Mark 14:21)
The astronauts have brought stones back from the moon that have been dated into the billions of years, but those stones have not lived.
And what if a man has lived to be a hundred, or two hundred years? If he has done nothing useful, or, perhaps worse, if he has misused or abused his life to the harm of others, would it not have been better if he had not been born? (Mark 14:21)
The traditional religious concept of marriage is outdated.
Many young people I know now enter into relationships agreeing that it is a good thing while it fulfills their respective needs. They don't pretend that it is worth persisting in unhappiness for the sake of an institution.
They also acknowledge their responsibilities as parents of any children they bear. They agree that it is important for a child to have both their parents in their lives and for those parents to respect each other regardless.
Abrahamic religious tradition focuses so much on the sanctity of the decree that it entirely loses sight of what actually matters. Indeed the blame culture of religion destroys any chance of separated couple maintaining a focus on the child's need.
I know this because both my wife and I have children from our previous relationships. We and our former partners did what we thought was right. Those children now have their own families, incidentally with the children of other "broken homes". All, yes every one of them, acknowledge the way their parents have managed this arrangement. They have all adopted a similar healthy outlook on their own relationships.
We all count our ex-partners among our very, very best of friends.
You see, without the stigma of Biblical dogma, people are thoroughly capable of focusing on what really matters instead of rotting in an unhappy union because some ancient ignorant misogynists decided they had a special connection to ultimate truth.
My own parents stayed together in an unhappy marriage. My own life experience suffered as a result. They had little choice because at the time our government toed the line of religious self serving attitudes making it very difficult for those who separated.
It is one of the reasons I am so strongly committed to demolishing religion as part of advancing the moral intelligence of the societies where our children and grandchildren are growing up.
And I can see I am succeeding while anachronisms like goodlife and his hypocritical cohorts become increasingly irrelevant.
Many young people I know now enter into relationships agreeing that it is a good thing while it fulfills their respective needs. They don't pretend that it is worth persisting in unhappiness for the sake of an institution.
They also acknowledge their responsibilities as parents of any children they bear. They agree that it is important for a child to have both their parents in their lives and for those parents to respect each other regardless.
Abrahamic religious tradition focuses so much on the sanctity of the decree that it entirely loses sight of what actually matters. Indeed the blame culture of religion destroys any chance of separated couple maintaining a focus on the child's need.
I know this because both my wife and I have children from our previous relationships. We and our former partners did what we thought was right. Those children now have their own families, incidentally with the children of other "broken homes". All, yes every one of them, acknowledge the way their parents have managed this arrangement. They have all adopted a similar healthy outlook on their own relationships.
We all count our ex-partners among our very, very best of friends.
You see, without the stigma of Biblical dogma, people are thoroughly capable of focusing on what really matters instead of rotting in an unhappy union because some ancient ignorant misogynists decided they had a special connection to ultimate truth.
My own parents stayed together in an unhappy marriage. My own life experience suffered as a result. They had little choice because at the time our government toed the line of religious self serving attitudes making it very difficult for those who separated.
It is one of the reasons I am so strongly committed to demolishing religion as part of advancing the moral intelligence of the societies where our children and grandchildren are growing up.
And I can see I am succeeding while anachronisms like goodlife and his hypocritical cohorts become increasingly irrelevant.
goodlife, You pretend that JW is not a religion.
Anything that pretend the Bible is a source of wisdom is a religion and JWs are firmly in my sights as one of the worst. Indeed it is the Bible itself and its sister publications such as the Koran that are the central targets of my case.
I also note that you make no attempt to refute my posts because you know there is no place you can get a foothold. Hence you will stay with your smug platitudes and again demonstrate you complete lack of philosophical fortitude.
You are a fool of the worst kind, one that presumes they bear intellect.
Anything that pretend the Bible is a source of wisdom is a religion and JWs are firmly in my sights as one of the worst. Indeed it is the Bible itself and its sister publications such as the Koran that are the central targets of my case.
I also note that you make no attempt to refute my posts because you know there is no place you can get a foothold. Hence you will stay with your smug platitudes and again demonstrate you complete lack of philosophical fortitude.
You are a fool of the worst kind, one that presumes they bear intellect.
Goodlife, //when the day arrives that all religion is destroyed as per Bible prophecy, you will never be able to say that you were not told! //
When will you understand that those of us who care nothing for religion would prefer not to share your imaginary new world with you? When our times comes, we will die - and we're content with that.
When will you understand that those of us who care nothing for religion would prefer not to share your imaginary new world with you? When our times comes, we will die - and we're content with that.
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