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What makes atheists think their wiser than everyone else?
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//Do me a favour sunshine, that is a porky and no mistake//
do me a favour jom, you dont know about my life, i have met and spoke to atheists, here and outside of here that definitely believe this, and deep down, i know you do to. Atheism is based on science, they believe they know everything about science, yet religious people are the ones who discovered more about science. So basically what atheists "believe" is what religion found out. fitting, huh?
do me a favour jom, you dont know about my life, i have met and spoke to atheists, here and outside of here that definitely believe this, and deep down, i know you do to. Atheism is based on science, they believe they know everything about science, yet religious people are the ones who discovered more about science. So basically what atheists "believe" is what religion found out. fitting, huh?
these are just christians who have contributed to science, and their are many more:
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Sith, so I don't know anything about your life...true, but you know what I believe deep down..false. However take this opportunity and surprise me, what do I 'believe deep down'.
Atheism is not based on science, it is based on simple reasoning and the rejection of bullsh1t. You haven't a clue what science is and you are clutching at straws. I find your claims that many scientist were religious just shows that 'deep down' you know that science works and you are trying to gain religion credit by associating it with science. Sort your head out and decide whether you believe in a religion or not.
Atheism is not based on science, it is based on simple reasoning and the rejection of bullsh1t. You haven't a clue what science is and you are clutching at straws. I find your claims that many scientist were religious just shows that 'deep down' you know that science works and you are trying to gain religion credit by associating it with science. Sort your head out and decide whether you believe in a religion or not.
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Sith - “... Atheism is based on science, they believe they know everything about science, yet religious people are the ones who discovered more about science. So basically what atheists "believe" is what religion found out. fitting, huh?...”
By typing the above words, it is clear that you have a very tentative grasp of both atheism and science.
Precisely what did religion 'find out' that atheists and science has only recently revealed? Was it Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity that demonstrated that space and time are not discreet entities but are one and the same and are curved? Is that what religion found out? Can you show us evidence of this discovery in religious texts? Can you also show us scriptural evidence for other scientifically discovered facts such as the existence of deoxyribonucleic acid, the pathogenic theory of medicine, cosmic microwave background radiation, the Planck constant, etc.? Of course not. Such things weren't even dreamt of 1500 years ago and beyond.
The simple fact is, the people who wrote your religious texts were people of their time - largely scientifically illiterate and not over familiar with logic and reasoning. That is not meant as an insult since almost all people of that time throughout the world would fall into that category. However, it is quite absurd for someone today who uses technology that would utterly bamboozle their recent ancestors to read the Koran or the Bible or the Torah or any other religious text and by selective translations, twisting of language and the debasement of logic, come the conclusion that every scientific discovery ever made (and that will ever be made) is all there in that particular ancient document.
People making such claims invariable end up looking rather foolish.
By typing the above words, it is clear that you have a very tentative grasp of both atheism and science.
Precisely what did religion 'find out' that atheists and science has only recently revealed? Was it Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity that demonstrated that space and time are not discreet entities but are one and the same and are curved? Is that what religion found out? Can you show us evidence of this discovery in religious texts? Can you also show us scriptural evidence for other scientifically discovered facts such as the existence of deoxyribonucleic acid, the pathogenic theory of medicine, cosmic microwave background radiation, the Planck constant, etc.? Of course not. Such things weren't even dreamt of 1500 years ago and beyond.
The simple fact is, the people who wrote your religious texts were people of their time - largely scientifically illiterate and not over familiar with logic and reasoning. That is not meant as an insult since almost all people of that time throughout the world would fall into that category. However, it is quite absurd for someone today who uses technology that would utterly bamboozle their recent ancestors to read the Koran or the Bible or the Torah or any other religious text and by selective translations, twisting of language and the debasement of logic, come the conclusion that every scientific discovery ever made (and that will ever be made) is all there in that particular ancient document.
People making such claims invariable end up looking rather foolish.
Jom, i am not saying that you said atheists are "wiser" than religious people. Not everything is about you. I know that we will never know everything about science, but if you read my post again you can see i was talking from an atheists viewpoint, not mine and again, you may not have said it, but many people have.
To be honest you have changed my mind jom, atheists aren't wiser than religious people, but their a whole lot more arrogant.
To be honest you have changed my mind jom, atheists aren't wiser than religious people, but their a whole lot more arrogant.
Sith, you argument barely merits a reply but I will have a try.
1. Naomi beat me to this point, you can no more talk from an atheist's point of view than I can talk from the point of view of a believer.
2.You are being disingenuous again, suggesting that you might have thought that atheists are wiser than believers, when the tone of our original question suggests otherwise.
Keyplus has the right idea..one word answers..
1. Naomi beat me to this point, you can no more talk from an atheist's point of view than I can talk from the point of view of a believer.
2.You are being disingenuous again, suggesting that you might have thought that atheists are wiser than believers, when the tone of our original question suggests otherwise.
Keyplus has the right idea..one word answers..
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