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Daily Mail cryptic 21st nov. no.13,330

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Tumble-bee | 12:10 Tue 25th Nov 2008 | Crosswords
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could really use some help with these clues can't see them at all.
1d. it's good to discover beef (7) _ _ _ _ _ _E
1a. Paggan first words of prayer bishop left out (7) could have an _ _ _ _ E?_ _
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1d g rumble
1a godless

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