Hi I agree Shaneystar with your point, today there was a number from the Telegraph with no clues or amount of letters, I had a copy of my grid so could answer or likewise open an envelope, also a number without any source of where they are from, and short of sorting through the publications purchased fruitless to attempt answer. There is also a second thread here, if you see that an effort has been made, to write out the clue and the letters obtained you are more inclined to assist, some may not agree, I am grateful for help and to help others as this is a great site and some good brains and links to other people across the world. Good luck with all this Bank Holiday puzzles, just to remind anyone interested The Times on Monday will have Bank Holiday Jumbo,