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Gromit | 08:17 Sat 12th Sep 2015 | News
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Does an event such as the tragic loss of more than 100 pilgrims in Mecca, change your views of Islam and muslim people in general?
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I don't understand the question. Why would this event change anyone's views?
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We'll, the muslim religion has been largely demonised for a lot of people by the activities of alqaeda and ISIL. I have often seen posts on here by people openly dispising the entire religion and everyone of its followers. Does an event such as this, where innocent muslims face great suffering, make any of you step back and reassess your antaganism to ordinary muslims?
No it doesn't, why would it?

This disaster is irrelevant to my perception of Islam.
No Gromit...not sure why it should ?

When people die in natural disasters or accidents like this, their faith is entirely irrelevant.
I just posted this on the other thread about this
http://www.irfi.org/articles3/articles_4801_4900/predestination%20in%20islam%20-wikipediahtml.htm
It explains that everything that happens on Earth is predicted by Allah and it is his will.
I despise Islam but I feel great pity for those that have lost their lives or injured. It's the religion I detest not individual people. I despise Christianity also, I don't despise Christians either.
Like you Ratter, I'm not very fond of any religion, although Buddhism seems fairly innocuous I suppose.
As already said why should it?
My perception of Muslims and any other religion / race / creed is that there are good and bad people in all. Some of the good become brainwashed to be bad and a few of the bad 'see the light' and become good (or at least less bad). The mosque tragedy makes not one iota of difference to this, for me.
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AOG,
So is it fair to assume you think there are 107 less potential terrorists in the world this morning? All muslims ARE potential terrorists, Right?
A 'No' here too.
No, but it is making me Change my views On the safety of these "Huge"cranes
Gromit

/// AOG,
So is it fair to assume you think there are 107 less potential terrorists in the world this morning? All muslims ARE potential terrorists, Right? ///

I don't know why you picked on me personally, but is there any proof that your own perception of what I think, could not be correct?

That is until you can provide us all with definite proof that among those victims, there were no potential terrorists.
Why should this tragedy change our views of Islam and muslim people? Did the mega-tsunami change our views of the people of any particular religion? Did the collapse of the clothing factory in India change our views of Hindu people? I don't see why any natural or man-made tragedy should change our views of the victims, either in a negative or a positive way.
I hate all religion, I have sympathy for the victims of this accident.
thx eddie I have been posting that Muslims believe in strong predestination for some time which kinda goes against free will

thing is why dont they all sit down in a heap and say
allah will feed me ?

Gromit's q is not that illogical
belongs ins the family " Now you know the roman catholic church burnt and tortured its way to primacy - does that change your idea of it ? "
sorry q more subtle than first read

considering the view is that these deaths would have happened anyway,
does it change your view of a religion that has such a faialistic attitude and presumably a care-free attitude to elf and safety ?

Yeah actually I am not sure I would want a devout muslim in charge of risk mgt in my work place
Gromit
AOG,
So is it fair to assume you think there are 107 less potential terrorists in the world this morning? All muslims ARE potential terrorists, Right?




Astrange question to start with just got stranger.

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