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Gays and paedohiles - "they're all the same"

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sp1814 | 17:45 Sun 19th Sep 2010 | News
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Can someone explain why some people cannot recognise the difference between a relationship between two adults, and the forced sexual relationship (often accompanied by threats) between an adult and a child?

I've just read a thread where someone commented along the lines of 'paedophilia is bad but two men togther is not far behind".

How popular is this (slightly bizarre) point of view?

Is it the natural extention of the Pope's claim that saving the world from homosexuality is "Like saving the rainforests"

The rants of religious dinosaurs, or somehing genuine concern?
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Daftgrandad:

Yes, we do live in a democracy. Yes, you absolutely have the right to hold your views.

But consider the reason that right exists? The reason is that democracy is a system that accepts plurality of views, and the reason this freedom is protected is partly because it's just easier but mostly because if people can argue and exchange their...
08:16 Mon 20th Sep 2010
Most societies seem to have worked out the sibling-marriage issue on the basis of observation and practicality: nature takes care of the rest. Every modern community can cite instances of sibling relationships where the kids have been OK but for the most part the genetics go wonky so the offspring become decreasingly viable - so over long periods of time society decides it's a bad thing, and provides laws to enforce it.
no the nature or nurture theory is not about being gay or not its the home environment the child is in and th influence of the parents .. homosexuality is not a life choice. it is inherent.. no wonder gay men and women " stay in the closset " as they know the reception they will receive from some people................
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joeluke

Siblings cannot have a sexual relationship because of the increased likelihood that offspring will physically and mentally deformed.
I don't know why the RC church is automatically demonised in these threads. In my experience of over 50 years both homosexuality and paedophilia were far more prevalent in the C of E (which does not demand celibacy of its ordained ministers). There is a certain Anglican theologicalcollege in Oxford, which, because of its outrageous reputation at the time, had to be literally cleansed like the Augean Stables some 30-odd years ago by a former Archbishop of York on his appointment as Principal.
SP - siblings can and do have sexual relationships, I've come across several progeny thus created during my teaching career.
Don't make it right, but it do happen.
sp1814 Siblings and cousins are advised not to have sexual relationships because mental and physical deformities can occur. It was not stated how the children of the incestuous father /daughter relationship in Austria turned out. I suspect the interbreeding of families over a period of years/generations results in deformities etc. However,sex between siblings and young cousins cannot be placed in the same mould as adult/child relationships.
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askyourgran

I hear what you say, but I was answering joeluke's post which in itself was a response to the illogicality of laws banning consenting adults having a sexual relationship (he pointed out that siblings can't).

My point was that there are medical reasons why siblings should not have sexual relationships - as opposed to gay men and lesbians.

I wasn't comparing sibling incest to paedophilia.
sp
Are you saying there is no medical reason why gays should not have a sexual
relationship.
Aids and HIV are two pretty good ones.
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Cue cries of 'Aids is not a gay disease'
I agree, DG............especially seeing as there are NO reports from anywhere in the world of heterosexual HIV/AIDS transmission.............err.........no......
.....hang
on.......
Hi doc
Love the Confessions thread XXXX
......and it originated from........?
You'd be a wealthy man if you knew the answer to that.........
Gay men
Ahh, so despite the fact that the best scientific minds on the planet have failed to reach that conclusion, you know this for a fact ?

Impressive !
Did you not bother to read any further than the first bit about gay men ?
Didn't need to
That's a shame...

If you'd read further you might have read the parts about the first cases of HIV were found some 90 years before the first cases found in gay people

http://www.avert.org/aids-timeline.htm

Still, if a single paragraph supports your view why bother reading the rest, eh?

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