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Jack Straw v Nick Griffin
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1216479/Jack-Straw-BBC-debate-BNP-leader-Nick-Griffin.html
Well at last it is going to happen, that is Labour are now prepared to share a platform with the BNP.
Will this be a fair debate or will all the panel including the Chairman, openly opposed Nick Griffin, in front of a BBC selected audience?
If it was possible for it to be a balanced discussion forum, who ideally would you wish to see on the panel?
Or if your preference is for it to be an out and out slanging match, who then?
Searchlight seems to have much to say, behind Nick Griffin's back, now given the chance to say it to his face, they refuse to take the same platform as him, why?
Well at last it is going to happen, that is Labour are now prepared to share a platform with the BNP.
Will this be a fair debate or will all the panel including the Chairman, openly opposed Nick Griffin, in front of a BBC selected audience?
If it was possible for it to be a balanced discussion forum, who ideally would you wish to see on the panel?
Or if your preference is for it to be an out and out slanging match, who then?
Searchlight seems to have much to say, behind Nick Griffin's back, now given the chance to say it to his face, they refuse to take the same platform as him, why?
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There is plenty of Nick speaking for himself on YouTube if you want a laugh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCt5Ce0i-m4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCt5Ce0i-m4
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I think it's about time the BNP were treated like all the other democratically elected parties – they should be allowed to air their views to a national audience. Question Time is a perfect vehicle to do this. I've always maintained that the BNP should be included within political debates because to exclude them only promotes the view that freedom of speech only exists if you agree with the paradigm.
Free speech is the lifeblood of a healthy democracy. Listening to views that you would spend a lifetime opposing is the very definition of a free society.
Searchlight and similar organisations claim to be “anti-fascist” - unfortunately they are demonstrably anything but. They are a good intentioned organisation in so far as they oppose fascism; but they have fallen into the trap of becoming the very thing they oppose – by attempting to stifle debate, they themselves display fascist tendencies.
What they should be doing is applauding the inclusion of the BNP on Question Time. It's their [Searchlight's] opportunity to engage in reasoned debate with a man who is clearly racist. This should be their finest hour; but what do they do? They refuse to debate.
Nick Griffin effectively delivers his head on a silver platter and they don't want to know.
Pathetic.
Demolishing the BNP's racist philosophy publicly is far more useful than pretending that he and his party do not exist.
Free speech is the lifeblood of a healthy democracy. Listening to views that you would spend a lifetime opposing is the very definition of a free society.
Searchlight and similar organisations claim to be “anti-fascist” - unfortunately they are demonstrably anything but. They are a good intentioned organisation in so far as they oppose fascism; but they have fallen into the trap of becoming the very thing they oppose – by attempting to stifle debate, they themselves display fascist tendencies.
What they should be doing is applauding the inclusion of the BNP on Question Time. It's their [Searchlight's] opportunity to engage in reasoned debate with a man who is clearly racist. This should be their finest hour; but what do they do? They refuse to debate.
Nick Griffin effectively delivers his head on a silver platter and they don't want to know.
Pathetic.
Demolishing the BNP's racist philosophy publicly is far more useful than pretending that he and his party do not exist.
trouble is the lefty BBC will fill the audience from the local Liberal club and the mosque, so he won't get a chance to make a fair point. All the other panelists will be falling over themselves to make sure thet are not seen agreeing with anything Griffin says. If it's a far debate then great, I doubt it will be.
Gromit demonstrates perfectly what will happen on QT! Lefties cannot tolerate any differring opinion. They do not have the ability to step away from their personal views and examine another point of view. So I predict that Griffin will just get shouted down all the time by the audience. There'll probably be a few nutters let in accidentally on purpose and they'll run down the front and lob some rotten veg or something! Stll whatever happens it'll liven up an otherwise tired show!
This is indeed good news, however - I wish they had Alistair Darling rather than Jack Straw.
Darling isn't a great debater, but he would be in a better position to challenge Griffin on how he is going to fund his more extravagent policies.
The ultimate fantasy would be if a black serviceman from the audience then asks, "I was born here, and have worked hard all my life...and served in Iraq...why can't I join the BNP?"
And then a Jew asks, "What are your views on the Holocaust?"
And finally an elderly Asian businessman could say, "I came to Britain on the early 70s, opened a restaurant and am now retiring...my son is training to be a paediatrician...why do some of your supporters write BNP FOR A WHITE BRITAIN on the side wall of my restaurant?"
Slam dunk.
Game over.
Darling isn't a great debater, but he would be in a better position to challenge Griffin on how he is going to fund his more extravagent policies.
The ultimate fantasy would be if a black serviceman from the audience then asks, "I was born here, and have worked hard all my life...and served in Iraq...why can't I join the BNP?"
And then a Jew asks, "What are your views on the Holocaust?"
And finally an elderly Asian businessman could say, "I came to Britain on the early 70s, opened a restaurant and am now retiring...my son is training to be a paediatrician...why do some of your supporters write BNP FOR A WHITE BRITAIN on the side wall of my restaurant?"
Slam dunk.
Game over.
sp1814
The ultimate fantasy would be if a black serviceman from the audience then asks, "I was born here, and have worked hard all my life...and served in Iraq...why can't I join the BNP?"
The same old tired rhetoric time and time again.
Why not " I was born here, so was my father and his father before him, also his father before him....................worked hard, fought through two world wars...yet why do I feel a foreigner in my own country"?
Or perhaps, I am a white police officer, why can't I join the Black Police Association?
Or even why can't I fairly criticise blacks without being called a racist.
The ultimate fantasy would be if a black serviceman from the audience then asks, "I was born here, and have worked hard all my life...and served in Iraq...why can't I join the BNP?"
The same old tired rhetoric time and time again.
Why not " I was born here, so was my father and his father before him, also his father before him....................worked hard, fought through two world wars...yet why do I feel a foreigner in my own country"?
Or perhaps, I am a white police officer, why can't I join the Black Police Association?
Or even why can't I fairly criticise blacks without being called a racist.
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AOG
Factual error...White officers are free join the Association of Black Police Officers.
But it would be brilliant if you had some professional black chap stick his hand up say, "Like hundreds of thousands of hard working black Britons, I wouldn't be represented by your party, but chavvy, benefit-scrouging baby factories like Karen Matthews would. What's the reasoning behind that?
That would be as pleasurable as watching Diana Gould rattled Thatcher during the '83 elections (over Belgrano).
It's great watching policians being wrong-footed by the man on the street. That's what I'm looking forward to. That would be tv gold.
Factual error...White officers are free join the Association of Black Police Officers.
But it would be brilliant if you had some professional black chap stick his hand up say, "Like hundreds of thousands of hard working black Britons, I wouldn't be represented by your party, but chavvy, benefit-scrouging baby factories like Karen Matthews would. What's the reasoning behind that?
That would be as pleasurable as watching Diana Gould rattled Thatcher during the '83 elections (over Belgrano).
It's great watching policians being wrong-footed by the man on the street. That's what I'm looking forward to. That would be tv gold.
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