Influx of foreign workers

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-113170 8/Stop-stealing-jobs-Thousands-oil-workers-Bri tain-walk-row-influx-foreign-labour.html

Do the hand wringers on this site believe that these workers are racist, or are they beginning to realise that in times like this UK workers should be the first in line for jobs?

[Haggisdj]

It said on 5 Live this morning that the unions had agreed staffing levels and minimum wages for this contract and that with the bid that the company who had won the tender had put in the could not be sticking to these agreements.

IF that is true then it doesn't sound very fair to me.

[anotheoldgit]

This is a fact of life . How many voters questioned their prospective members of parliament on this subject at election time ? Who's quotation was " a country gets the government it deserves " ??

There must have been many, but living in a so called 'democracy' would it had made any difference?

If the electorate was given a vote, we wouldn't even be in Europe, let alone have Gordon Brown as a Prime Minister.

[Gromit]

AOG

67.2% voted to stay in Europe in 1975.

The British public have never been able to vote for the Prime Minister, the winning party chooes that (So Labour appointed Gordon Brown).

[anotheoldgit]

Having read some of the answers on this subject, I presume that some are not trying hold down a job, but perhaps are sitting back enjoying State Benefits.

If they are in employment, maybe in the not too distant future, they may also be looking forward to a period on the Dole.

Perhaps their views may then alter, but I won't be holding my breath.

[jake-the-peg]

Sounds like AOG wants Government to interfere with business and tell them who they can and cannot employ!

Sounds awfully like socialism to me!

David hug-a-hoody Cameron will be cross!

[DrFilth]

are not trying hold down a job, but perhaps are sitting back enjoying State Benefits.

aog , do you know anyone who has lost their job and is enjoying state benefits

in the past a few people on here have slagged off people who are benefits, i was wondering if any people have changed their mind about benefits ?


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[jake-the-peg]

In fact the more I think about it it seems to be a socialism with a nationalistic bent.

A sort of national socialism

now all we need is a snappy name....any thoughts

[DrFilth]

who are on


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[Gourmander]

They're welcome to all the work. Just as long as my benefits keep pace with inflation, then it doesn't bother me. It also puts more money into the economy, helping the unemployed.

[wasp]

Hussain. The last paragraph of your post is rather naive to say the least . Where would these scoured workers have been trained ? In the underdeveloped world ? I don't think so ! The develped world does the educating and the training. If thereafter they are able to secure a job in the developed world that's their good fortune.

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

On 9 April 1975, the House of Commons voted 396 (70%) to 170 (30%) in favour of retaining the Common Market on the new terms negotiated by Wilson's government between April 1974 and March 1974.

Retaining the 'Common Market' we did not vote for the EC a very different 'kettle of fish', I think you will find.

Regarding the Prime Minister the leader of winning party (Labour) becomes Prime Minister.

Blair appointed Brown his successor and since he did not go to the polls as leader, technically he can not be described as elected.

[dzug]

Do the hand wringers on this site believe that these workers are racist,

Sounds like they are,

or are they beginning to realise that in times like this UK workers should be the first in line for jobs?

That's not an 'or'. It's a racist statement.

So are you are asking 'Is racism justified?'

[Gromit]

A public referendum (Not a House of Commons vote) held on 5 June 1975 in the whole of the United Kingdom over whether there was support for it to stay in the European Economic Community, which it had entered in 1973, under the Conservative government of Edward Heath. Labour's manifesto for the 1974 general election included a pledge for a referendum, so after Labour won under Harold Wilson, the referendum was held.

Yes Votes = 17,378,581 67.2%

Brown was elected as an MP. He was unopposed as Blairs successor. He is Prime Minister. Why does it matter?

[anotheoldgit]

Extracted from a report of Brown's news conference in today's Guardian:

Asked about the refinery strikes at a news conference in Davos today, the prime minister said: "I understand people's worries about their jobs. I understand people's anxieties about employment across the country. But we are doing everything we can both to get economic growth moving in our country and to help people who are unemployed, to help them into new jobs."

Brown also stressed that protecting jobs was one of his key political aims. He said: "I came into politics to help people out of unemployment, to help people who were poor by building an economy that was confident and strong to weather this storm. I believe that the action we have taken to help people in work stay in work, to help people who lose their jobs get jobs again ... is the way to do it."

Wasn't it Punch that said "That's the way to do it"

So what has happened? Absolutely nothing but more empty words.

[123everton]

The point is AOG is that we are free to work anywhere within the EU and to claim benefits after 3 months there. We have a minimum wage here if the contention is that they are working below that, then action needs to be taken.
We have many Poles working on our job, if they can do it and are willing to do the hours I'll cheerfully represent them in any matter.
We used to have 1000s of Brits working on German building sites in the 80s, auf wiedersein, pet.

[anotheoldgit]

Yes we all know this Gromit, it is history, please stick to the point in question.

Very much has changed since 1974, in which the British public has had no say in whatsoever.

Are you seriously suggesting Gromit that the vote would now be the same in 2009?

Being's you are interesting in researching the facts, perhaps it would be interesting for you to lay-out the changes made, since it was a simple 'Common Market'?

[rov1200]

I'm beginning to think the same people who want us out of Europe are the same that want to re-introduce capital punishment and who are totally against joining the Euro. Although they are in the majority so are the number of Sun readers.