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[gulliver1]

Sir Keir Starmer says"Britains are on course to become poorer people than Poland, Hungary and Romania According to the analysis of World Bank data
The wealth prospects in Britain are set to be surpassed in the coming years by eastern Europeans.This is the path of decline The Tories have set our Country on.The British people are falling Behind, while our European neighbours in the East as well as Countries like France and Germany ."""

[naomi24]

Untitled. My post at 13.53 is a fact. You’ve never seen real poverty.

[Untitled]

you are wrong naomi

if you voted tory then you did this. there's really no two ways about it.

look honestly at what you did and try to make it right.

[fender62]

europe is so great thousands have made it here illegally and legally
obviously they come for the great weather.

[ToraToraTora]

more 5C cobras from Untitled, if they are so well off compared to us why is the channel full of desperate people crossing Utopia to get to the UK? What a load of Hippocack. Go and visit.

[naomi24]

No, untitled, I am not wrong. You’re bleating on about
something of which you have no experience. Complete drivel.

[Untitled]

poverty is to a great extent measurable naomi and the facts disagree with you... you are simply incorrect

[naomi24]

No, untitled, I am not incorrect. You have compared this country to places you really wouldn’t want to experience. Although perhaps you should. It would certainly educate you.

[ToraToraTora]

Perlease untitled, you seriously cannot believe the drivel you are posting! "they are the facts" - derived? how, on what basis, what measures? Have a look here:
https://www.habitatforhumanity.org.uk/country/romania/

[Untitled]

if you believe "real poverty" doesn't exist in the UK then you're just ignorant... i'm sorry but there's nothing else to say

[naomi24]

Untitled, This is one of the most generous and socially aware countries in the world. You have very clearly never seen real poverty so perhaps it’s best you don’t say any more.

[ToraToraTora]

Real poverty does not exist in the UK, why do you think half the world is risking death to get here? We have one of the most generous benefit systems in the world. No one is starving unless they choose to be. End of. Food banks help the feckless so they can spend their dosh on drugs and booze rather than food and wallies like you just wring your hands rather than seeing you are being conned. If you could take off your anti British cloak for 5 minutes you'd see that. Tell you what untitled see if you can find a Romanian to swap with.

[Untitled]

i have already provided substantiating links naomi so unless you actually have any information i am not interested in your opinion

do either of you have anything to back up your claim that the UK is exceptionally generous?

[Untitled]

"Food banks help the feckless so they can spend their dosh on drugs and booze "

this is a stupid thing to say

[Old_Geezer]

Sir Keir Starmer says a lot of things. The secret is to be able to sort the fact from the nonsense.

[ToraToraTora]

untitled: "do either of you have anything to back up your claim that the UK is exceptionally generous? " - did you looks at my Romania link? Ever been to any of the eastern bloc countries? Ever been to India? China? Mongolia? You and your anti British cohorts may be able to "prove" your points with cherry picked stats but if you look at the real people really on the ground in these places then you'd see what Bow locks you are spouting. Can you explain why thousands cross the EUSSR to get here then if we are such a basket case? Usual lefty cherry picked cobras.

[naomi24]

You’re not interested in opinions that disagree with yours at all, untitled. That’s nothing new.

[ToraToraTora]

OG: "Sir Keir Starmer says a lot of things. The secret is to be able to sort the fact from the nonsense." - that's easy, if his lips are moving......

[Untitled]

statement by prof. philip alston, a UN rapporteur on extreme poverty in the UK... with footnotes to information that can be verified by anyone.

https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/Documents/Issues/Poverty/EOM_GB_16Nov2018.pdf

[Untitled]

more detail here

https://documents-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/G19/112/13/PDF/G1911213.pdf?OpenElement

[Untitled]

"Ever been to any of the eastern bloc countries? Ever been to India? China? Mongolia? "

yes to two of these... and to some very poor areas too...

i stand by my opinion because i am not as blinkered about the UK as you... i think perhaps you are insisting that poverty does not exist here because if you admitted that it did and that the tories had made it worse then you would have to do the uncomfortable work of facing your complicity in it... just like some of us lefties did after Iraq