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Northern Ireland Betrayed.
Theresa May has betrayed the people of Norhthern Ireland by kow towing to the Republic and the EU.
The loyalists won't stay quiet, and I don't blame them.
The loyalists won't stay quiet, and I don't blame them.
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It is all cant and obfuscation. There is already hard border in existence in the Irish Sea. Varadkar's government with EU complicity erected and maintains a hard border against Northern Irish fishermen overturning generations of neighbourhood agreement, that existed before either the UK or Ireland were even in the EUSSR, whereby fishermen from both jurisdictions enjoyed reciprocal access to each others waters. The previous Irish administration pledged that this would continue and allow the fishermen to continue to benefit from the historic fishing patterns as had previous countless generations. Encouraged and egged on by the EUSSR who greatly covet British fishing grounds the new Irish administration, two years ago banned all boats from Northern Ireland. The UK as yet has not retaliated, indeed they have not even reported it, nor has the lick spittleBeep Beep Sea(see what I did there?)The Irish backstop "question" is a confected problem that has been eagerly seized upon by the remainiacs and swallowed hook line and sinker by the half wit sheeple who could not understand a debate even if their lives depended on it. There will be no deal. Even if it got through our rancid parliament it will not cross the EUSSR cesspit of lies. We should have walked immediately, and fired a few warning volleys, instead of conducting a shambolic rear guard retreat under fire
It is all cant and obfuscation. There is already hard border in existence in the Irish Sea. Varadkar's government with EU complicity erected and maintains a hard border against Northern Irish fishermen overturning generations of neighbourhood agreement, that existed before either the UK or Ireland were even in the EUSSR, whereby fishermen from both jurisdictions enjoyed reciprocal access to each others waters. The previous Irish administration pledged that this would continue and allow the fishermen to continue to benefit from the historic fishing patterns as had previous countless generations. Encouraged and egged on by the EUSSR who greatly covet British fishing grounds the new Irish administration, two years ago banned all boats from Northern Ireland. The UK as yet has not retaliated, indeed they have not even reported it, nor has the lick spittleBeep Beep Sea(see what I did there?)The Irish backstop "question" is a confected problem that has been eagerly seized upon by the remainiacs and swallowed hook line and sinker by the half wit sheeple who could not understand a debate even if their lives depended on it. There will be no deal. Even if it got through our rancid parliament it will not cross the EUSSR cesspit of lies. We should have walked immediately, and fired a few warning volleys, instead of conducting a shambolic rear guard retreat under fire
“A border down the Irish Sea?”
I’m only up to page 320 (where the Irish question is mentioned). I’ve necessarily been only scanning and speed reading. I see no border in the Irish Sea thusfar. The reason for that is that there is no need. Instead what I do see is a continued common customs area encompassing the UK and the rest of the EU enduring for many years beyond the “transition” period. What I also see is a continued financial UK obligation to contribute to the EU coffers for many years.
This document does not detail how we leave the EU. It describes how the UK will remain under the pernicious influence of the EU for many years to come. If leaving “on good terms” involves this, far better we leave under a cloud.
I’m only up to page 320 (where the Irish question is mentioned). I’ve necessarily been only scanning and speed reading. I see no border in the Irish Sea thusfar. The reason for that is that there is no need. Instead what I do see is a continued common customs area encompassing the UK and the rest of the EU enduring for many years beyond the “transition” period. What I also see is a continued financial UK obligation to contribute to the EU coffers for many years.
This document does not detail how we leave the EU. It describes how the UK will remain under the pernicious influence of the EU for many years to come. If leaving “on good terms” involves this, far better we leave under a cloud.
I don't think the withdrawal agreement does anything even remotely close to what Brexiters asked for, and May is transparently lying if she calls this a deal that honours the result of the referendum. On the other hand, I've argued -- and still argue -- that this is because, on the time-frame she set herself, properly honouring the result was always impossible.
I am also skimming the agreement as best I can: a few articles that caught my eye as particularly devastating to hopes of "taking back control" include (so far);
Article 4(5)
Article 8
Article 34(2)
Article 50
Article 87
Article 89
Article 95
Article 129(1)
Article 129(3)
Article 132(1)
Article 132(2)(d)
Article 140(3)
Talbot -- let me know what you think of the text of those ones.
I am also skimming the agreement as best I can: a few articles that caught my eye as particularly devastating to hopes of "taking back control" include (so far);
Article 4(5)
Article 8
Article 34(2)
Article 50
Article 87
Article 89
Article 95
Article 129(1)
Article 129(3)
Article 132(1)
Article 132(2)(d)
Article 140(3)
Talbot -- let me know what you think of the text of those ones.
Evening Standard explains how she will get it through !
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Quite, v-e: one of the articles I highlighted has a reference to the Joint Committee (of EU and UK members) being able to provide for a single extension "until 31 December 20XX". Which, presumably, allows that to be set at any year this century.
That, and Theresa May's own -- remarkable -- decision to talk of there being a choice between "this deal... or no deal, or no Brexit at all" [my italics], makes me wonder if, after all, we'll end up staying.
That, and Theresa May's own -- remarkable -- decision to talk of there being a choice between "this deal... or no deal, or no Brexit at all" [my italics], makes me wonder if, after all, we'll end up staying.
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