Has Sweden Learnt The Lesson, That Others Should Now Follow?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4396224/Sweden-never-mass-immigration-PM-says.html

/// Stefan Löfven pledged to change his country's liberal attitude, insisting the massive influx allowed during the 2015 migrant crisis would never happen again. ///

[Peter Pedant]

// That's third-hand evidence, Khandro. What would be known in the legal trade as "hearsay" (or even "hearsay, hearsay!) :-)//

well that is interesting because I heard from a friends daughter that there is something called the Hearsay Act ("or something yeah ?")

http://www.civillitigationbrief.com/2015/10/04/the-civil-evidence-act-the-absent-witness-and-witness-credibility-a-case-in-point/

bearing in mind it may not be admissible in criminal law
but MAY be admissible in civil law
and ..... immigration cases were civil the last time I looked ....

but you know I was only told
so all the above may be ... hearsay

[Jackdaw33]

The burden of proof in civil cases is much less strict than that in criminal cases.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Here's some more hearsay evidence from writer (and VE hero) Mark Steyn who spent several months last year in Sweden and Germany:



It's about 30 minutes long and a very entertaining half hour it is. Steyn covers "fact checking", Earth Hour (cancellation thereof), hot tubs in public swimming pools, the "No!" (in Arabic) bracelets and the debate he and Farage had with Louise Arbour and Simon Schama on the refugee crisis. The extracts from the debate (last five minutes of the video) are brilliant.

[vetuste_ennemi]

And talking of "going there to see for yourself", VE is much aggrieved that (two Fridays ago) he hiked from the far west of London to Barking in search of jihadis. Plenty of 7th century goatherds with haji hats and smart phones, but no obvious jihadis.

[vetuste_ennemi]

That's not answering the OP though, is it?

The only lesson Sweden has learnt is submission. Look at the Swedish "feminists" in this article:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/13/iranian-president-criticised-all-male-delegation-swedes-hassan-rouhani

[emmie]

why was the video footage submitted by Khandro pulled, it was informative though a trifle scary.

[Khandro]

Good question emmie; why and by whom? we seem to have now our own resident snowflakes.

[jourdain2]

I wanted to see that -I was just too busy at the time.

[naomi24]

khandro, post it again. I'd like to see it.

[vetuste_ennemi]

[Jackdaw33]

I have just googled 'snowflake', a term with which I was unfamiliar. Says it all, really. Glad I belonged to Generation Hailstone.

[naomi24]

v_e, is that what Khandro posted? If so I do hope the new moderators - or the old ones for that matter - aren't zapping stuff that isn't actually against 'the rules'.

[jourdain2]

Me too, jackdaw!

[brainiac]

Who is the bloke in the 'Rape of Sweden' video? Can't see how anything he says is controversial, or how anyone could disagree with what he says. By the way, where are the million 'refugees' Germany took in? What are they doing for accommodation, money, food etc etc?

[Mamyalynne]

That video has been posted a few times on here since it was put on YouTube in 2015 - mind you I don't know it it was removed before today.

[Jackdaw33]

What are they doing for accommodation, money, food etc etc?

All comes out of the EU budget, to which soon we will no longer be contributing.

[vetuste_ennemi]

I don't think there is an EU "budget" for refugees etc. I think the refugees in Sweden and Germany are subsidised by the tax-payers in each country. Hence Merkel's attempts to bully Poland, Hungary etc. into accepting their "fair share" of the problem.

[sevenOP]

The lesson that none of the EU members have learned is NOT to be a member of an institution that allows undocumented people to walk from one end of Europe to the opposite end.

[Jackdaw33]

Thank God for the English Channel.

[Khandro]

Thanks v_e. The one I posted naomi was this, 6 minutes, let's see if it lasts - AND it is 5 years old;