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Yet another Trump failure. Is there no longer any doubt that Trump just doesn't have what it takes to be President ?
Yet another Trump failure. Is there no longer any doubt that Trump just doesn't have what it takes to be President ?
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Will this guy EVER admit he was wrong and apologize for anything? Nothing is ever his fault!! He did not 'just miss' getting it through , it was a mile out, never stood a chance!
22:37 Fri 24th Mar 2017
In case you weren't paying attention, the same was true of Hillary Clinton, and she was merely a candidate (and Secretary of State in Obama's first term, a Senator before that, etc etc).
And the same was true of Obama, mercilessly, from the Right of US politics, from virtually Day One of his office. And George Bush, a parodic figure of fun and genial incompetence throughout his two terms. And Bill Clinton before him.
Why should Trump be any different? Especially when he makes it so easy?
As to the claim that "he's only trying to do what he said he would do" -- this is only a virtue if what he said he would do is actually worth trying to do. Otherwise it's just a stubborn refusal to accept that your policy positions are untenable. I also reckon you could make the same defence of Duterte (President of the Phillipines), who has genuinely come out with the line "Hitler killed three million Jews. Today there is [sic] three million drug addicts. I'd be happy to slaughter them."
Oh, and just as a classic for you, this is the same guy who even himself has called Donald Trump a "bigot". Go figure.
Finally, do you actually know what Trump said he would do? Apart from the Wall -- and even then, I've pointed out that he has just made up figures for that off the top of his head and doesn't really have any idea what it'll cost or how long it will take to build -- apart from that single policy point, I am willing to bet that you could name any policy position that Trump has said he'd try to do, and I'll be able to go out and find Trump saying the literally exact opposite policy position. Sometimes even in the same speech.
I've already done that a few times although I'm fairly sure that you've either not noticed or not bothered yourself to read into it. But the fact is that Trump is a pathological liar, as Ted Cruz put it (before himself brown-nosing Trump), and trying to defend him as somehow "honest" is a position you just can't maintain in the face of even just a minute's research.
And the same was true of Obama, mercilessly, from the Right of US politics, from virtually Day One of his office. And George Bush, a parodic figure of fun and genial incompetence throughout his two terms. And Bill Clinton before him.
Why should Trump be any different? Especially when he makes it so easy?
As to the claim that "he's only trying to do what he said he would do" -- this is only a virtue if what he said he would do is actually worth trying to do. Otherwise it's just a stubborn refusal to accept that your policy positions are untenable. I also reckon you could make the same defence of Duterte (President of the Phillipines), who has genuinely come out with the line "Hitler killed three million Jews. Today there is [sic] three million drug addicts. I'd be happy to slaughter them."
Oh, and just as a classic for you, this is the same guy who even himself has called Donald Trump a "bigot". Go figure.
Finally, do you actually know what Trump said he would do? Apart from the Wall -- and even then, I've pointed out that he has just made up figures for that off the top of his head and doesn't really have any idea what it'll cost or how long it will take to build -- apart from that single policy point, I am willing to bet that you could name any policy position that Trump has said he'd try to do, and I'll be able to go out and find Trump saying the literally exact opposite policy position. Sometimes even in the same speech.
I've already done that a few times although I'm fairly sure that you've either not noticed or not bothered yourself to read into it. But the fact is that Trump is a pathological liar, as Ted Cruz put it (before himself brown-nosing Trump), and trying to defend him as somehow "honest" is a position you just can't maintain in the face of even just a minute's research.
Zacs-Master, If I think someone is on the receiving end of unwarranted criticism, I will defend them. I told you, I’d even defend you – or andy-hughes – in such circumstances.
Just as an example, shortly after he was elected thousands, purporting to support women’s rights, marched in protest. Did he ever say he intended to deny rights to women? No, he didn’t. Nevertheless those protesters were applauded here by people unwilling to wait to see what he did and unwilling to even give him a chance. Pathetic!
Just as an example, shortly after he was elected thousands, purporting to support women’s rights, marched in protest. Did he ever say he intended to deny rights to women? No, he didn’t. Nevertheless those protesters were applauded here by people unwilling to wait to see what he did and unwilling to even give him a chance. Pathetic!
Actually he did say that he was going to deny rights to women, since he was keen for example to support elections to the Supreme Court of Judges who would repeal Roe v. Wade (right to Abortion); his American Health Care Bill (now scrapped, of course) would have defunded Planned Parenthood (access to abortion rights and general women's health); the second Presidential Memorandum he signed was a policy that blocked funding for companies that promote abortions and abortion rights abroad; and last year he talked about "some form of punishment" for women who had abortions (he may have tried to backtrack a day later, but he definitely said that).
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So I picked one specific example of women's rights that were threatened under Trump -- directly, by direct quotes. And so you just moved the goalposts so that your sweeping and entirely wrong statement could still be "true" in some sense.
No surprises there. And no surprises that you'd defend Trump either, given that approach to defending a position. Right out of his textbook. Like the claims about Obama wiretapping him, that have turned out to have no basis in fact whatsoever but are still somehow true to his supporters because incidentally the FBI may have conducted a few security investigations that implicated a couple in his campaign group over the last two months of last year, which isn't the same thing at all but also is, in his world and the world of his supporters.
Trump doesn't have to threaten *all* rights that women have in order to be a threat to women's rights. And I've demonstrated that he is and intends to be such a threat.
No surprises there. And no surprises that you'd defend Trump either, given that approach to defending a position. Right out of his textbook. Like the claims about Obama wiretapping him, that have turned out to have no basis in fact whatsoever but are still somehow true to his supporters because incidentally the FBI may have conducted a few security investigations that implicated a couple in his campaign group over the last two months of last year, which isn't the same thing at all but also is, in his world and the world of his supporters.
Trump doesn't have to threaten *all* rights that women have in order to be a threat to women's rights. And I've demonstrated that he is and intends to be such a threat.
// Zacs-Master, If I think someone is on the receiving end of unwarranted criticism, I will defend them. I told you, I’d even defend you//
good to know Ni
there was some stupid woman who called ME'stupid and idiotic' a few night ago.egged on by Baldric as usual. -
she would I am sure have written stultior puer and idiotees if she had known it but doesnt do foreign languages....
Nice to know you will weight in on my side when she does it again
( yes yes reader it was Ni herself wot did it)
good to know Ni
there was some stupid woman who called ME'stupid and idiotic' a few night ago.egged on by Baldric as usual. -
she would I am sure have written stultior puer and idiotees if she had known it but doesnt do foreign languages....
Nice to know you will weight in on my side when she does it again
( yes yes reader it was Ni herself wot did it)
Zacs-Master, //Is this the sort of world leader you admire Naomi? //
Don’t put words into my mouth. If those people really cared about ‘rights for women’ they’d have marched before he was elected and they’d be marching to defend women around the world who really have no rights. Strangely, they don’t. The only reason they congregated at that time was because someone they didn’t want elected, was. They jumped on the bandwagon of what they perceived to be ‘popular’ opinion. Pathetic, the lot of them.
Got to go. Back later.
Don’t put words into my mouth. If those people really cared about ‘rights for women’ they’d have marched before he was elected and they’d be marching to defend women around the world who really have no rights. Strangely, they don’t. The only reason they congregated at that time was because someone they didn’t want elected, was. They jumped on the bandwagon of what they perceived to be ‘popular’ opinion. Pathetic, the lot of them.
Got to go. Back later.
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