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Should Ms Le Pen Be Forced To Conform To Islam's Practice Of Covering Their Female's Heads?
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/// A spokesman for the Grand Mufti said Ms Le Pen's aides had been informed beforehand of their requirement for her to wear head covering for the meeting in Lebanese capital Beirut. ///
/// A spokesman for the Grand Mufti said Ms Le Pen's aides had been informed beforehand of their requirement for her to wear head covering for the meeting in Lebanese capital Beirut. ///
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lindapalmara at 15:25 Wed, it’s all about sex. The sight of a woman’s hair is considered by Islam to be temptation to men, implying that men are incapable of controlling their more basic urges and are not expected to. Similarly with the de rigueur Islamic dress code which requires women to dress to conceal the shape of the body.
An insult to every decent man on the planet – in my opinion – which is why I can only think that men who support the obligation for women to cover themselves don’t understand what they are actually supporting.
Incidentally, regardless if what she’s wearing, when a woman is sexually abused, Islamic courts will often lay the blame for the attack squarely on the woman for enticing the attacker. Under Islamic law, unless the attacker confesses to the crime, a victim of rape is required to produce four male witnesses to support her case.
The Turkish government, which in probably the most liberal of Islamic countries, is actually rather orthodox, recently proposed the introduction of a law that would exempt rapists of children from prosecution if they married their victim. Fortunately, due to fierce public opposition, the proposal has been abandoned.
An insult to every decent man on the planet – in my opinion – which is why I can only think that men who support the obligation for women to cover themselves don’t understand what they are actually supporting.
Incidentally, regardless if what she’s wearing, when a woman is sexually abused, Islamic courts will often lay the blame for the attack squarely on the woman for enticing the attacker. Under Islamic law, unless the attacker confesses to the crime, a victim of rape is required to produce four male witnesses to support her case.
The Turkish government, which in probably the most liberal of Islamic countries, is actually rather orthodox, recently proposed the introduction of a law that would exempt rapists of children from prosecution if they married their victim. Fortunately, due to fierce public opposition, the proposal has been abandoned.
naomi // it’s all about sex. The sight of a woman’s hair is considered by Islam to be temptation to men, implying that men are incapable of controlling their more basic urges//
I think The reason for covering, in places of worship at least, is that a woman's hair exposed, shows more her feminine charms to men, which can distract them from the purpose of the religious service.
This doesn't apply to Islam, of course, because men and women don't pray together.
I think The reason for covering, in places of worship at least, is that a woman's hair exposed, shows more her feminine charms to men, which can distract them from the purpose of the religious service.
This doesn't apply to Islam, of course, because men and women don't pray together.
Naomi - // ... it’s all about sex. //
// An insult to every decent man on the planet – in my opinion – which is why I can only think that men who support the obligation for women to cover themselves don’t understand what they are actually supporting. //
Wow - two seeping statements in one post - first of all you presume to speak for a faith which by your own admission you do not adhere to, and then you presume to speak on behalf of a gender of which you are not a member.
The first - I suggest you are probably not qualified to make such a sweeping generalisation, and the second, I state that you absolutely are not qualified to make such a sweeping generalisation.
That has to be a record, even for you.
// An insult to every decent man on the planet – in my opinion – which is why I can only think that men who support the obligation for women to cover themselves don’t understand what they are actually supporting. //
Wow - two seeping statements in one post - first of all you presume to speak for a faith which by your own admission you do not adhere to, and then you presume to speak on behalf of a gender of which you are not a member.
The first - I suggest you are probably not qualified to make such a sweeping generalisation, and the second, I state that you absolutely are not qualified to make such a sweeping generalisation.
That has to be a record, even for you.
Of course you are - I already knew that.
But I wanted to highlight the double standard here - whenever I venture an opinion about islam slecifically, I get told by you and a couple of others that I am not qualified, even though I am merely offering an opinion - as you did here.
Do we have to preface every post with 'In my opinion' - or can we assume we are capable of discerning the difference between fact and opinion when it is offered?
But I wanted to highlight the double standard here - whenever I venture an opinion about islam slecifically, I get told by you and a couple of others that I am not qualified, even though I am merely offering an opinion - as you did here.
Do we have to preface every post with 'In my opinion' - or can we assume we are capable of discerning the difference between fact and opinion when it is offered?
Samjenko - //That's part of the problem, Andy. You keep stating things about Islam as a fact when you are wrong. If you said imo you wouldn't raise hackles the way you do. This is meant in a friendly way for you to consider, hope you take it in that spirit. //
Absolutely - thank you.
it is a fair point to raise that on occasions I may make a point that appears to be offered as a statement of fact, when I know that I am offering an opinion, and fail to make clear the distinction.
I appreciate you pointing it out - it is the penalty for people who type as they think - as I do - but it is important, since our communication is only ever written, that these traps are avoided.
I shall make greater efforts to make clear when I am offering my view, or what I know to be a fact.
Absolutely - thank you.
it is a fair point to raise that on occasions I may make a point that appears to be offered as a statement of fact, when I know that I am offering an opinion, and fail to make clear the distinction.
I appreciate you pointing it out - it is the penalty for people who type as they think - as I do - but it is important, since our communication is only ever written, that these traps are avoided.
I shall make greater efforts to make clear when I am offering my view, or what I know to be a fact.
andy-hughes
Of course you are - I already knew that.
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