Bit Anti Social?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38788388
Why would anyone not welcome a visiting US president?

[sp1814]

Vannon

I'm only taking the pee.












Ironically.

[Jackdaw33]

I'm sorry, but I fail to understand why the decision of the Head of State of a foreign country to restrict access to its shores should cause resentment in this country.

[Canary42]

It won't be the first time the Royals have met evil people - years before the Ceaucescu episode, the Duke of Windsor visited Hitler after all.

And Teresa May's recent "triumphant return waving a trade agreement" matches Neville Chamberlain's return from Munich waving his infamous piece of paper.

[andy-hughes]

Jackdaw33 - //Domestic politics of another country are no business of ours. //

Really?

How else do you explain our armed forces invading a variety of eastern nations and using military force to enforce a system of democratic government on them, killing millions of their civilians, destroying the cities and infrastructures, and then withdrawing, leaving a puppet government behind?

Of course domestic politics of another country are every business of ours!!

[andy-hughes]

Jackdaw33 - //I'm sorry, but I fail to understand why the decision of the Head of State of a foreign country to restrict access to its shores should cause resentment in this country. //

Because it is fundamentally morally wrong, and the fact that it is happening thousands of miles away does not make it right, or cease to make it something to which we as nation should react.

[mikey4444]

Could Betty perhaps have a headache ? One of my sister-in-laws swears by a headache to stop her having to do all sorts of things she doesn't want.

[sp1814]

Jackdaw33

Because the access list is incomplete.

If he was being honest, he would have included Turkey and Saudi Arabia.

But he has extensive business links to the country.

Also, it's been badly thought out. He's restricting access to people who have valid work permits and green cards (at least, that's how the transport authorities have implemented).

Part of the order makes a lot of sense (the focus on American terrorist sympathisers), but a blanket ban based on country of origin is viewed by many, both in America and around the world as being reductive step.

[zebo]

237SJ's post @ 21.10, I think that this post was a warning against posting anything too inflammatory if the judiciary can demand posters' details. Thin end of a wedge, much as I dislike Mumsnet.

[Ninefingers]

Jeez guys, Whatever you think of the abhorrent man, he is the President of the United States of America and as diplomacy works for all then he will be welcomed here in that role.

You may not respect the man but respect the role, it's how civilised counties work

[Jackdaw33]

AH, that was precisely my point. Saddam, Gaddafi and their ilk posed no threat to us.

[237SJ]

Correct Zebo

[Gromit]

// people who talk about watersports //

Now you are taking the ***.

[Jackdaw33]

One thing is for sure; if Trump meets the Queen he will not be so ignorant as to call her Betty.

[gness]

Ninefingers....in one week he has tainted and shamed the role more than any other President has done in a whole term.....

Sitting back, welcoming him and doing nothing to show disapproval of this wicked man would be wrong.....x

[Jackdaw33]

Pure hyperbole. All he has done is to impose a ban on people who might turn out to be terrorists.

[Gromit]

Jackdaw,
Most terrorists the US have seen are homegrown, no connection to the 7 countries named, or Saudis who are not on the banned list.

Ummph.

[Gromit]

Vannon,
Obama didn't enact a ban.