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A Translator Living In Germany Has Revealed That Muslim Migrants Believe The Country "should Be Islamised"
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‘We will multiply our numbers’ Muslim migrants aim to outbreed Christians.
Well who'd have thought it?
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Naomi > I doubt very much that Gromit will ever be the victim of a fatwa.
No me neither. Unless he is working on a sequel to The Satanic Verses.
I was always told that 'only a fool doesn't listen to experience'. Even though we have no name for the translator, and there are very good reasons why we don't, it would be churlish to shrug her comments of as mere opinion.
All that said, we know about the direction of travel, and what she has said does not require any great foresight to predict the kind of comments stated in the OP.
The hand that feeds has well and truly been bitten. The diet of German culture is so abhorrent to these people that they must, at any cost, seek to stamp their own wordly views and customs on their hosts and beyond.
The aim being the complete erosion of Christian life. Simply an outrage that must not be insidiously permitted.
No me neither. Unless he is working on a sequel to The Satanic Verses.
I was always told that 'only a fool doesn't listen to experience'. Even though we have no name for the translator, and there are very good reasons why we don't, it would be churlish to shrug her comments of as mere opinion.
All that said, we know about the direction of travel, and what she has said does not require any great foresight to predict the kind of comments stated in the OP.
The hand that feeds has well and truly been bitten. The diet of German culture is so abhorrent to these people that they must, at any cost, seek to stamp their own wordly views and customs on their hosts and beyond.
The aim being the complete erosion of Christian life. Simply an outrage that must not be insidiously permitted.
AG, I am always willing to listen to informed information and / or opinion - but there are plenty of those about, and in terms of Muslim extremist activity in Europe - real or imagined - there is a long queue of people ahead of an anonymous translator whose views I would be interested to hear, and be educated by.
I am at a loss to understand why this one person's view has been taken and put into a newspaper feature and picked up by the Express. There must be dozens of people whose knowledge of Muslim immigrants is far wider and deeper than hers who could offer a view if one were required.
I can only put it down to the fact that her statements chime exactly with the Express's known and continuing paranoia and dislike of anything that is not white and British, which is endorsed by its readership, hence the printing of this feature.
It does not make what she says true - just her experience, and experience does not automatically equal truth, and people should be wary of assuming that it does just because it strikes a chord.
I am at a loss to understand why this one person's view has been taken and put into a newspaper feature and picked up by the Express. There must be dozens of people whose knowledge of Muslim immigrants is far wider and deeper than hers who could offer a view if one were required.
I can only put it down to the fact that her statements chime exactly with the Express's known and continuing paranoia and dislike of anything that is not white and British, which is endorsed by its readership, hence the printing of this feature.
It does not make what she says true - just her experience, and experience does not automatically equal truth, and people should be wary of assuming that it does just because it strikes a chord.
Andy > It does not make what she says true - just her experience, and experience does not automatically equal truth.
Irrespective of how long the queue would be on your terms, do you have reason to doubt that what she has experienced and averred to be the truth of the situation, is incorrect?
How many pillars of truth do we need to accept the 'truth'?
Irrespective of how long the queue would be on your terms, do you have reason to doubt that what she has experienced and averred to be the truth of the situation, is incorrect?
How many pillars of truth do we need to accept the 'truth'?
Gromit
// A TRANSLATOR living in Germany has revealed that Muslim migrants believe the country "should be Islamised", according to a new report. //
An un-named person in an un-named report has given her opinion.
So it is an unverifiable accont based on heresay.
There may be an element of true in it, or there may not be. But this does not prove anything either way.
This would be much more believable if there had been a leaked memo.
// A TRANSLATOR living in Germany has revealed that Muslim migrants believe the country "should be Islamised", according to a new report. //
An un-named person in an un-named report has given her opinion.
So it is an unverifiable accont based on heresay.
There may be an element of true in it, or there may not be. But this does not prove anything either way.
This would be much more believable if there had been a leaked memo.
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AG - //Irrespective of how long the queue would be on your terms, do you have reason to doubt that what she has experienced and averred to be the truth of the situation, is incorrect? //
It doesn't matter if her experience is the truth of not - and there is all probability that it is, but that is not an assurance anyone should want to rely on to start quoting her in foreign national papers.
This woman is unknown, unidentified, and without any knowledge beyond her own experience, and as I pointed out, there are many many people whose knowledge and experience is more extensive, pertinent and valuable than mine.
You can pick anyone in any situation anywhere and get their opinion and experience about it - but that does not mean their opinion and experience are a valid yardstick by which facts and truth can be measured.
It doesn't matter if her experience is the truth of not - and there is all probability that it is, but that is not an assurance anyone should want to rely on to start quoting her in foreign national papers.
This woman is unknown, unidentified, and without any knowledge beyond her own experience, and as I pointed out, there are many many people whose knowledge and experience is more extensive, pertinent and valuable than mine.
You can pick anyone in any situation anywhere and get their opinion and experience about it - but that does not mean their opinion and experience are a valid yardstick by which facts and truth can be measured.
/// The translator, who arrived in Germany in 1991 as a refugee from Eritrea, said she began volunteering in asylum centres after wanting to give something back following the "open-minded reception and support" she received on arriving in the country. ///
Oh dear I wonder if some of my fellow ABers have missed the point that this lady translator who they are poo pooing, is not some white, right wing agitator, but is in fact a refugee from Eritrea?
It must be such of conflict of loyalties for them all.
No this is just not a 'non news' story that some have chosen to call it, but an insight from someone actually amongst it all.
/// Clashes between Christian and Muslim asylum seekers have been on the rise in recent years. ///
/// A report released last month claimed that 743 Christians have been the victims of attacks in Germany's asylum system since May, with 416 reported to have suffered physical abuse. ///
/// Of the 743 victims, 44 said they had been sexually assaulted and more than 300 received death threats. ///
Serious enough to be reported on, no matter in which newspaper, don't you think?
Oh dear I wonder if some of my fellow ABers have missed the point that this lady translator who they are poo pooing, is not some white, right wing agitator, but is in fact a refugee from Eritrea?
It must be such of conflict of loyalties for them all.
No this is just not a 'non news' story that some have chosen to call it, but an insight from someone actually amongst it all.
/// Clashes between Christian and Muslim asylum seekers have been on the rise in recent years. ///
/// A report released last month claimed that 743 Christians have been the victims of attacks in Germany's asylum system since May, with 416 reported to have suffered physical abuse. ///
/// Of the 743 victims, 44 said they had been sexually assaulted and more than 300 received death threats. ///
Serious enough to be reported on, no matter in which newspaper, don't you think?
AOG - the quotes you are adding to your argument are no doubt sourced from reliable reputable news sources, and no-one would quarrel with what they say.
But this is not a reliable reputable news source, it's an anonymous translator, and that is not entitled to the same level of trust and belief, and that is the point I am making.
But this is not a reliable reputable news source, it's an anonymous translator, and that is not entitled to the same level of trust and belief, and that is the point I am making.
That's the crux of it hereIam - is this lady being given media space because she is saying something that chimes with the fears of a lot of people?
That does not mean that because what she says underlines what a lot of people worry about, that her information is any more accurate than anyone else who is similarly not a viable credible source of information.
That does not mean that because what she says underlines what a lot of people worry about, that her information is any more accurate than anyone else who is similarly not a viable credible source of information.
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