When Is Bretix Then?

[cassa333]

Not sure how this works but does this mean Bretix won't be started till at least the state opening of Parliament in May?


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37532364

[woofgang]

or Brexit?

[EDDIE51]

It says nothing about starting 'Brexit', this is to ensure we still have a system of law after we leave the EU. This can not be enacted until we are out of the EU. Many of our current laws are those that were imposed as part of being in the EU. We need to make sure we have a system of our own law to use once we leave.

[Gromit]

No, it won't start then.

The Government will state in the Queen's Speech that it intends to introduce a Bill diring that parliamentary session. That bill will have to be presented, debated, voted on and probably sent to the Lords for ratification. I doubt that process will start before the summer recess, so we are talking about next Autumn, possibly also after the Party Conferences.
And it might not be that straight forward, there might be hurdles to overcome.

[Gromit]

EDDIE,

Replacement laws cannot be introduced before we leave.

The process of leaving could take several years. Most conservative estimates say 5 years, but others are saying 10, 15, even 20 years.

[Togo]

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/brexit-begins-theresa-may-takes-axe-to-eu-laws/ar-BBwSHzS?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=spartanntp

Mother Teresa is setting up the dominos. She will take the false wind out of the sails of the remainiacs and the ditherers once and for all. They who hope for a return of the EUSSR rulers are in for a bitter realisation that no matter how much they wring their hands and wail, we are getting out.

[EDDIE51]

Several people I have talked to think this is a 'way out' of Brexit. But that is not the case. This has to be done because if we just leave the EU we would find many of our current laws can no longer be enforced. This is because when we joined the EU the EU law superseded UK law, that has to be reversed. This is nothing to do with implementing A50.

[EDDIE51]

Gromit, Yes that's what I said in my first answer.

[Gromit]

Worth noting:

// The government will also enshrine ALL EXISTING EU LAW INTO BRITISH LAW and anything deemed unnecessary will be abolished later. //

And

// The repeal of the 1972 Act will not take effect until the UK leaves the EU under the process for quitting the bloc known as Article 50. //

So even if the great Repeal Bill happens in a years time, what it will do will not come into effect until asfter we have invoked Article 50. Which sounds suspiciously like they are not going to invoke until after all EU law is enshined into UK Law.

[Peter Pedant]

when is Breticks ven ?O

there is no such orgasm ..... organism I mean

O! O! Brexit , sorry

// Replacement laws cannot be introduced before we leave. //
" Parliament cant do that but it can do some very odd things"
" Even parliament can't legislate indefinitely" yes it can Ld Palmerston

do a replacement law -and have a post dated start date
not all ( virtually none ) of the law come into effect on the day of Royal Assent.

yeah when is Brexit ven ?
I mean as Farage says and he has experience of these things - you just say no thanks and close the door and lock it and there ! you have Brexitted yeah? easy peasy

[Peter Pedant]

grom grom it is just yapping from the kennels of whitehall

When good king Charles came back ( er 1660 I think ) -
the scots passes a Rescissory Act ( every thing after 1649 goes ) and the english didnt - different parliaments in those days boys - and the effects were roughly the same

the judges were saying that a lot of the principles of the human rights act have passed into Common Law - I mean we will have to wait and see.

[mikey4444]

As soon as Mrs May, who didn't want it or vote for it, like the majority of her Party, gets around to it I suppose. But she will have to get any proposals through both Houses of Parliament first !

[hereIam]

Next March apparently.

[mushroom25]

//// The government will also enshrine ALL EXISTING EU LAW INTO BRITISH LAW and anything deemed unnecessary will be abolished later. //

very little of the pronouncements of the EU are in the form of actual law applying to its member states. typically the EU will issue a directive; this is itself enacted into the domestic law of the member state. thus most of what we think of as "EU Law" is already enshrined into legislation enacted by the UK parliamentary system. thus EU Directive 2004/49/EC on railway safety became, in UK law, the Railways and Other Guided Systems (ROGS) Regulations 2006.

[mushroom25]

my above example also shows that a lot of EU directives didn't need their own acts of parliament to become law in the UK, instead finding their place as regulations under an already existing bit of primary legislation (the above regulations sit under the Health and Safety at Work, etc, Act). regulations are far easier to enact than Acts of Parliament....

[ToraToraTora]

A50 will be triggered by the end of March and we'll be out by 2019 end of.

[Gromit]

// ...A50 will be triggered by the end of March and we'll be out by 2019 end of. //
No constituenal challengers, visits to tbe high court, or wrangling at all.
That timescale will slip, inevitably.

[Togo]

//No constituenal challengers, visits to tbe high court, or wrangling at all.
That timescale will slip, inevitably. //

Or be accelerated out of necessity, when the pyramid scheme goes "bits" up as it will. Inevitably.