Hate Crimes Have Not Risen By 57% Since The Eu Referendum.

[anotheoldgit]

/// This eye-catching figure has certainly done the rounds in recent months, regularly bandied about by liberal commentators, the BBC and Left-wing newspapers. ///

/// Yet dig into its provenance and things soon start to smell distinctly whiffy. For the ‘57 per cent’ number was actually plucked from a single press release issued by the National Police Chief’s Council on June 27, four days after the EU ballot took place. ///

/// The document in question specifically stated that police forces had recorded ‘no major spikes in tensions’ since Britain went to the polls. ///

[THECORBYLOON]

ANOTHEOLDGIT, if there is so much more awareness and confidence, why does the Crime Survey suggest such a huge discrepancy in the figures actually reported to police?

[Togo]

//it does seem suspicious that there was an increase in reported numbers in the days after the vote. And that shouldn't come as a surprise, because at the time, there were multiple reports where the aggressors seemed emboldened by the Brexit report.//

It is suspicious. But only an extension of the misinformation and downright lies put out by the remainiacs. Who says the Brexit vote has emboldened the alleged perps? Perhaps it is the remainiacs having heightened sensitivity issues particularly the ones who know they are here under false pretences.

[Togo]

Of course many people will be only too willing to believe the guff pumped out by the fifth column anti British "social monitors" . In the absence of the plagues, earthquakes, monetary collapse, housing price crash, and general Armageddon predicted they need it to fan the embers of their doused EUSSR fanaticism.

There are lies, damned lies, and statistics.
Mark Twain.

[THECORBYLOON]

Do you include the ONS?

[Zacs-Master]

Still not sure what AOG is trying to prove here.

[Mamyalynne]

Who lives their life by statistics? I don't know anyone who does.

The message should be 'live and let live' whoever you are and get crime figures as low as possible.

Conversely we could spend days,weeks,months going round in circles trying to decide which published figures are right.

[TWR]

And who & what causes hate Crimes?

[Mamyalynne]

Criminals.

[anotheoldgit]

If there was a survey on reported hate crimes levelled against right wing ABers, compared to those against left wing ABers, I would think the figures would show that the right wing ABers are hated against more.

[ummmm]

What planet are you on?

[TWR]

Hi Mam, I doubt that myself, does the IS come to mind and the effect it has on the public, the Taxi drivers in Oldham / Oxford / Rotherham, the soldiers return in Luton & the reaction of a certain part of the Community.

[Zacs-Master]

Lost the plot.

[Mamyalynne]

Well this is ludicrous - someone would have to tell me with foot I walked with before I knew what the stats meant to me and at the end of the day would it flaming matter - no.


TWR you doubt that criminals are responsible for hate crimes - at this point I shall cease to bang my head on the desk - it hurts.

[jackthehat]

You are using more and more threads to show how beleaguered you feel yourself to be on this site, AOG.

It's getting quite toe-curling....

Hate-crimes are committed by 'hate-criminals'. I'm not sure quite what the correlation between Brexit and hate-crimes proves, if indeed it proves anything...

[Togo]

When the state sponsored and increasingly powerful hate crime industry, driven by the youman rites movement, gets it's way we will all be potential suspects. The left wing luvvies have a supply and demand problem with bigotry and hatred,there isn't enough of it to go round to support their jaundiced view of events or to keep their beloved quangos and single issue pressure groups focused.............so they need to get some fuel for their bonfires.

[sp1814]

'left wing luvvies'.

Brilliant.

[Mamyalynne]

Anyone needing bonfire fuel needs only to register here - reams of it.

[sp1814]

AOG

If there was a survey on reported hate crimes levelled against right wing ABers, compared to those against left wing ABers

Nonsense.

Are you saying that the right wingers on AB don't fling any mud?

Both sides argue vociferously, but some people on AB don't like to be challenged. They want to be able to state their views, and the moment that more than one person counteracts, they claim that they are being bullied.

It's odd.