Has Anyone Counted Them Yet?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3753633/Homeward-bound-Team-GB-athletes-smiles-prepare-leave-Rio-greatest-overseas-Olympic-Games.html

I wonder how many of our athletes have sought asylum in Brazil? :0)

[THEMOTLEY1]

Having read the second paragraph of the 1251 post it appears to be aimed at AOG and not as he assumed AH

[jim360]

Actually a great deal of Team GB's Olympics success is owed to its ruthlessness at sports that fail to achieve medal targets, so punishing the underachievers by leaving them in Standard Class seems more in keeping with that ethos than a random seat allocation. Just saying.

[andy-hughes]

THEMOTLEY1 - //Having read the second paragraph of the 1251 post it appears to be aimed at AOG and not as he assumed AH //

'Right-on lefty liberal views' .... AOG? ....

Hahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[naomi24]

Jim, the 'under-achievers' as you call them were not punished. Those who did better were further rewarded. Not the same thing at all. I really think this kind of nonsense is very childish. Not in the sporting spirit at all.

[THEMOTLEY1]

How often do I come on Site to know who is who? I only stated how the last paragraph appeared. I propably have less knowledge of other posters on the site than you do AH, which makes my knowledge pretty poor. However if it makes you feel better.

[New Judge]

The problem with the “Team GB” concept (leaving aside the Northern Ireland question) is that most of the participants, with the exception of those in genuinely team sports such as hockey, are not members of a team. They are individual sportsmen and women who are competing largely for themselves. They just happen to originate from the same nation. (In many cases not even that - they happen to have ended up here from somewhere else).

The team will not share in the spoils of Mo Farrah’s success when he goes on to earn squillions of £££s doing whatever people and organisations are daft enough to pay him in the future (almost certainly in the USA as he has announced his intention to permanently settle there). He will trouser the lot and the person who came a gallant 33rd in the Mens’ underwater freestyle synchronised shirt ironing will not see a penny. The only thing that makes Team GB a team is that they wear the same blazers.

[andy-hughes]

andy-hughes - //THEMOTLEY1 - //Having read the second paragraph of the 1251 post it appears to be aimed at AOG and not as he assumed AH //

What you actually have there is YMB having a pop at me because he thinks I am a 'right-on lefty' (I'm not, but that's his opinion) and then in the second paragraph, a nod to AOG with whom he broadly agrees on most subjects.

So no, the post was not aimed at AOG, and YMB and I, and probably AOG, are well aware of it.

[andy-hughes]

THEMOTLEY1 - //How often do I come on Site to know who is who? I only stated how the last paragraph appeared. I propably have less knowledge of other posters on the site than you do AH, which makes my knowledge pretty poor. However if it makes you feel better. //

I have no idea what or whom you know on here, but if you have been in News on any day, you will have doubtless encountered AOG's posts, and by default his position which he would concur is decidedly to the right (you only have to look at his Avatar).

So if you thought I was being unkind, it was not my intention. However unintentional, your post will have amused a large number of regulars on here - and that is never a band thing.

[andy-hughes]

New Judge - //The problem with the “Team GB” concept (leaving aside the Northern Ireland question) is that most of the participants, with the exception of those in genuinely team sports such as hockey, are not members of a team. They are individual sportsmen and women who are competing largely for themselves. They just happen to originate from the same nation. (In many cases not even that - they happen to have ended up here from somewhere else).

The team will not share in the spoils of Mo Farrah’s success when he goes on to earn squillions of £££s doing whatever people and organisations are daft enough to pay him in the future (almost certainly in the USA as he has announced his intention to permanently settle there). He will trouser the lot and the person who came a gallant 33rd in the Mens’ underwater freestyle synchronised shirt ironing will not see a penny. The only thing that makes Team GB a team is that they wear the same blazers. //

Not a view I could find a single argument against.

But while we are pretending that we have a 'team' - let's carry the spirit forward for the sake of appearances, which is what modern sport is involved in, to an unedifying degree.

[andy-hughes]

Actually New Judge - to further add evidence to your argument, as the wonderful sage and philosopher David Brent once said "There is no 'I' in team ... but there is a 'me' if you look hard enough ...'

[naomi24]

Just imagine telling a baseball team not to carry its star hitter (is that the word?) shoulder high at the end of a big game in case the blokes who didn’t score the deciding runs got upset! What a world of wimps we would create if that sort of thing were de rigueur!

[jim360]

Fair point, Naomi. I was actually meant to be agreeing with you (and not andy), just in a slightly ironic way that maybe didn't come across.

Anyway, the point is that the medallists earned their accolades, and I would be amazed if anyone on that plane thought otherwise.

[naomi24]

^Me too. :o)

[youngmafbog]

AH, you are right.

From your many posts I do get the impression you are a right-on liberal right down to the fact you think you are right every time and everyone else is wrong (unless they agree with you of course). Lets face it you are certainly no right winger are you?

Anyway, on this one I certainly disagree with you. Winners are winners and should be showered in all glory. If it wasn't for them they would probably all be on the next slow boat over, so at least they all get to share the plane!

[ToraToraTora]

"Mrs T did not have a good record where plane livery was concerned - remember her ringing endorsement of the hideous re-decoration of BA planes which was swiftly and quietly dropped very soon afterwards. " - she covered it with a napkin Andy, still don't let the truth get in the way of an ill informed rant eh.

[ToraToraTora]

Andy: "AOG - I stand corrected - my memory has managed to completely reverse the reality of Mrs Thatcher's views! " - ... a common failing among the anti TGL and the anti British.

[andy-hughes]

YMB - //AH, you are right.

From your many posts I do get the impression you are a right-on liberal right down to the fact you think you are right every time and everyone else is wrong (unless they agree with you of course).//

Again, that is a product of your imagination, and misinterpretation of what you read. Obviously I think my view is right - there would be no point in holding and posting it otherwise, and I share that approach with everyone on here - yourself included.

But that does not mean that I am not open to argument, disagreement, persuasion, in fact, any of the tools of debate, excluding abuse. And if you look back through my history, you will see that is true.

Many times I have had my view changed, and confirmed that fact. Many other times I have agreed to differ with people - yourself included again - and you know that to be true as well I am sure.

So no, I don't always expect or demand that people agree with me. of course it's nice to have a view enforced with agreement, that is human nature.

Both yourself and AOG are happy to re-enforce each others' opinions, and no argument there - just extend that courtesy to me as well, and we will be all good.

//Lets face it you are certainly no right winger are you? //

No, and a massive amen to that!!! But that doesn't make me a woolly lefty liberal tree-hugging lentil steamer either! There are degrees in any difference of opinion, it makes the world an interesting place.

// Anyway, on this one I certainly disagree with you. Winners are winners and should be showered in all glory. If it wasn't for them they would probably all be on the next slow boat over, so at least they all get to share the plane! //

So actually, you don't disagree with me! Except in your own imagination, as I have pointed out previously. I have never said that winners should not enjoy their success - because that is not a view I hold.

Hopefully this illustrates that I am not that opposite from you in some areas, and indeed, as in this, we are in broad agreement.

[andy-hughes]

TTT - //Mrs T did not have a good record where plane livery was concerned - remember her ringing endorsement of the hideous re-decoration of BA planes which was swiftly and quietly dropped very soon afterwards. " - she covered it with a napkin Andy, still don't let the truth get in the way of an ill informed rant eh. //

If you have read the posts following Tora, you will see that AOG posted a piece of film disproving my faulty memory, and then one from me admitting my error.

I made a mistake! Get over it!!! I have.

[andy-hughes]

TTT - //Andy: "AOG - I stand corrected - my memory has managed to completely reverse the reality of Mrs Thatcher's views! " - ... a common failing among the anti TGL and the anti British. //

I confess I don't know what the 'anti TGL' is, so it's unlikely that I am connected to them.

As for being 'anti-British' - I assure you, I am no such thing.

You really are seeing things that are not there - I simply misremembered, put it down to old age, and stop looking for sinister connections that don't exist!

[ToraToraTora]

yes Andy and very magnanimous of you but what worries me now is how many of your other opinions are based on similar misreadings? Are you , are you, like most lefties blinded by your hatred of TGL above what even the facts establish? Does this extend to other subjects?