Body & Soul1 min ago
Snipers Shoot Police In Us
In the wake of the shooting of two black men, anti-police sentiment is running high.
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Let me try and expand on my post @ 12:07 for the benefit of those who've never encountered anything more violent than a sneeze!
I spent a large part of my life as a part of The Armed Services (RM's) when mixing with what could be potential enemies you cannot seperate the 'Good from the Bad' just by looking at them, that's a sure route to danger, everyone has to be suspect, if only initially, it's a fact. To be fair most of us appear to have been better trained and disciplined than these American Cops seem to be.
I think, by now, most citizens of countries outside the U.S. know the self preservation driving rules when driving in America.
Long before these two recent incidents I would, if pulled over by the police, stop the car engine, handbrake on and place both hands clearly on the dash board so the stopping /approaching officer can clearly see them irrespective if he had drawn his weapon or not.
If asked to produce my D/L or passport I would politely invite the officer to handcuff me with my arms behind my back and then tell him which pocket they can be found by him or his colleague.
As all colours in some of the states in the U.S. are allowed to carry concealed weapons then it defies logic that as a gun carrier you would start reaching for driving documents when an armed police officer approaches you with weapon drawn !!
Perhaps rules of conduct and engagement should be part of driver training in the U.S. as well as don't leg it if you have been stopped for a broken stop light.
Long before these two recent incidents I would, if pulled over by the police, stop the car engine, handbrake on and place both hands clearly on the dash board so the stopping /approaching officer can clearly see them irrespective if he had drawn his weapon or not.
If asked to produce my D/L or passport I would politely invite the officer to handcuff me with my arms behind my back and then tell him which pocket they can be found by him or his colleague.
As all colours in some of the states in the U.S. are allowed to carry concealed weapons then it defies logic that as a gun carrier you would start reaching for driving documents when an armed police officer approaches you with weapon drawn !!
Perhaps rules of conduct and engagement should be part of driver training in the U.S. as well as don't leg it if you have been stopped for a broken stop light.
//Well , in this latest execution , were the coppers lives in danger ? //
Do you know for sure they were not on the basis of a video that shows the deceased slumped on the car seat AFTER the officer fired.
I heard the female passenger explain that all her boyfriend was doing was reaching for his documents. I will go back and replay that. If that were the case and we did not see it then the officer may well have thought his life was in danger. As usual we do not know the lead up to this incident.
IF and a big IF he was reaching for documents?? when approached by the officer he was a very foolish man particularly as he was licensed to carry a concealed weapon and the officer MAY of flagged that on the in board computer prior to the stop! All ifs and maybe's!
Do you know for sure they were not on the basis of a video that shows the deceased slumped on the car seat AFTER the officer fired.
I heard the female passenger explain that all her boyfriend was doing was reaching for his documents. I will go back and replay that. If that were the case and we did not see it then the officer may well have thought his life was in danger. As usual we do not know the lead up to this incident.
IF and a big IF he was reaching for documents?? when approached by the officer he was a very foolish man particularly as he was licensed to carry a concealed weapon and the officer MAY of flagged that on the in board computer prior to the stop! All ifs and maybe's!
// I would, if pulled over by the police, stop the car engine, handbrake on and place both hands clearly on the dash board so the stopping /approaching officer can clearly see them irrespective if he had drawn his weapon or not.
If asked to produce my D/L or passport I would politely invite the officer to handcuff me with my arms behind my back and then tell him which pocket they can be found by him or his colleague.
Perhaps rules of conduct and engagement should be part of driver training in the U.S. //
Welcome to the land of the free!
// don't leg it if you have been stopped for a broken stop light. //
Strange remark, no one has suggested Castile was trying to escape. He had 4 bullets in him and died in seconds.
If asked to produce my D/L or passport I would politely invite the officer to handcuff me with my arms behind my back and then tell him which pocket they can be found by him or his colleague.
Perhaps rules of conduct and engagement should be part of driver training in the U.S. //
Welcome to the land of the free!
// don't leg it if you have been stopped for a broken stop light. //
Strange remark, no one has suggested Castile was trying to escape. He had 4 bullets in him and died in seconds.
Strange remark, no one has suggested Castile was trying to escape. He had 4 bullets in him and died in seconds.
I am not suggesting he was running away but obviously unlike you I read the links pretty well that Talbot provided with regard to 1000 police shootings of civilians. There are comments among the stats that suggest a lot of killings result in suspects making a run for it.
I am not suggesting he was running away but obviously unlike you I read the links pretty well that Talbot provided with regard to 1000 police shootings of civilians. There are comments among the stats that suggest a lot of killings result in suspects making a run for it.
// he was licensed to carry a concealed weapon and the officer MAY of flagged that on the in board computer prior to the stop! //
If the commentary of the female passenger is to be believed, he volunteered the information he was licensed to carry a weapon. He was not the owner of the car so the police would not know any personal details before stopping it.
We do not see the initial contact in this video, but the officer will have a bodycam, so let the authorities release that.
If the commentary of the female passenger is to be believed, he volunteered the information he was licensed to carry a weapon. He was not the owner of the car so the police would not know any personal details before stopping it.
We do not see the initial contact in this video, but the officer will have a bodycam, so let the authorities release that.
There is something fundamentally wrong with a police service if the only way to be sure they don't kill you is to perform a very precise set of actions while maintaining complete calm in a situation where someone is pointing a gun at you. How can this possibly be acceptable? It was a broken tail light! And he got shot dead for it. And somehow, this is his fault?!
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