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Are Those Who Sign Parliamentary Petitions Bigots?
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Well according to this Labour MP the 185,000 concerned citizens who signed this Parliamentary petition are nothing more than 'BIGOTS'
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An upcoming Commons debate - which will last for three hours - has been scheduled after the document received more than 100,000 signatures.
/// The debate follows a pledge in the Conservative manifesto before the 2010 general election that any petition signed by more than 100,000 people will be eligible for debate in parliament. ///
/// But Labour MP Steve McCabe slammed the notion of a Commons debate on the subject ///
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An upcoming Commons debate - which will last for three hours - has been scheduled after the document received more than 100,000 signatures.
/// The debate follows a pledge in the Conservative manifesto before the 2010 general election that any petition signed by more than 100,000 people will be eligible for debate in parliament. ///
/// But Labour MP Steve McCabe slammed the notion of a Commons debate on the subject ///
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ve, perhaps you need to understand the worry behind the post ratgher than sneer at someone who is perhaps not so well blessed with the grey matter.
These are real fears being voiced here so as Corbyn would have said "Mick from Liverpool asks ....."
They are not bigoted, they have a clear and reasonable worry. Many parts of the UK do appear like another country.
But then we know labour hate democracy and questions unless it falls in with their bigoted ideaology
These are real fears being voiced here so as Corbyn would have said "Mick from Liverpool asks ....."
They are not bigoted, they have a clear and reasonable worry. Many parts of the UK do appear like another country.
But then we know labour hate democracy and questions unless it falls in with their bigoted ideaology
“Most benefits paid out in Britain every week goes to old age pensioners,…”
Please don’t start me off on State pensions. You’ve already started me off on climate change this week, Mikey :-)
“Proper” State pension payments (that is, those that have been fully funded by the recipient) are no more “benefits” than occupational pensions are. But the scheme has severe drawbacks. Contrary to belief, the amount received does not depend on the amount paid in. Currently somebody earning £100,000 a year pays £5,271 a year in NI. Somebody earning £10,000 a year pays £233 a year in NI. If they both work at those pay levels for 35 years each will receive the same basic State pension (currently set at around £155 per week when the new levels kick in next year). One pays 23 times as much as the other but both receive the same. The scheme is full of such anomalies.
Payments should be in direct proportion to the sums paid in and only those payments should be termed “pensions”. Anything else should be retirement age benefits.
But back to the question, people who have a different view to others should not be termed bigots. They are entitled to the view and in this particular case it is a view that I share wholeheartedly. I’ve been up to London today and the concentration of people there gets worse every time I go. There is no room for more people in London and since migrants seem to want to live nowhere else we must shut up shop forthwith.
Please don’t start me off on State pensions. You’ve already started me off on climate change this week, Mikey :-)
“Proper” State pension payments (that is, those that have been fully funded by the recipient) are no more “benefits” than occupational pensions are. But the scheme has severe drawbacks. Contrary to belief, the amount received does not depend on the amount paid in. Currently somebody earning £100,000 a year pays £5,271 a year in NI. Somebody earning £10,000 a year pays £233 a year in NI. If they both work at those pay levels for 35 years each will receive the same basic State pension (currently set at around £155 per week when the new levels kick in next year). One pays 23 times as much as the other but both receive the same. The scheme is full of such anomalies.
Payments should be in direct proportion to the sums paid in and only those payments should be termed “pensions”. Anything else should be retirement age benefits.
But back to the question, people who have a different view to others should not be termed bigots. They are entitled to the view and in this particular case it is a view that I share wholeheartedly. I’ve been up to London today and the concentration of people there gets worse every time I go. There is no room for more people in London and since migrants seem to want to live nowhere else we must shut up shop forthwith.
NJ....I'm sorry to have raised your blood pressure twice in one week !
What you have said about Old Ages Pensions is probably right but that is how National Insurance Contributions work ! I come back to the original petition, and its inaccuracies. Pensions are indeed the bigger part of the Benefit Budget and the petition is therefore inaccurate and grossly misleading.
What you have said about Old Ages Pensions is probably right but that is how National Insurance Contributions work ! I come back to the original petition, and its inaccuracies. Pensions are indeed the bigger part of the Benefit Budget and the petition is therefore inaccurate and grossly misleading.
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