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ToraToraTora | 09:17 Wed 02nd Sep 2015 | News
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Why has the Gay community turned into bullies?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34121411
Ironically they have been delivered from this sort of thing themselves, now they make a "sport" of picking on people that don't embrace their lifestyle as enthusiastically as they think they should. It's going to take time for all the officials to come to terms with new rules etc, why go around trying to find people to bully?
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Bullies. Imagine going about the place deliberately making people's lives a misery, just because the law is on your side. Why would anyone want to force a clergyman/official to, grudgingly, marry you? Doesn't sound like a very joyous occasion to me.
09:57 Wed 02nd Sep 2015
///Not sure the churches are involved in this ceremony. Isn't this known as a civil ceremony i.e one that is not sanctioned by the church and one that this lady would normally officiate at (similar to a registrars office in the UK)? ///

She's nowhere nears the services......she hands out the licences......
vetuste - "Disagreeing with gay marriage makes one a homophobe - this is "fact". You have just said that - I have got that right, haven't I, Andy?

No, you haven’t got it right.

What I stated as a fact was that this woman’s attitude is homophobic – and that can clearly be seen from watching the film. Her obvious attitude of contempt for the couple, their intention to marry, and her responsibility to issue them with the licence to do so is homophobic. That is what I actually said.

She could have vehemently disagreed with the notion of gay marriage, and been professional enough not to allow her personal views to conflict with her performance of her duties – she chose not to do so.

Togo - "Another minority, one issue( no pun intended) pressure group, who will not stop until their view is compulsory."

I have to disagree there.

The aim is not that everyone agrees that gay marriage is a right and proper thing, and that view is compulsory.

The aim is that if a gay couple wish to get married, the law of the land says that they are legally able to do so, and as such, they should not be discriminated against as a minority.

The absence of bigoted prejudice is already compulsory – it’s just that this lady has a vested interest in not see that fact.
jth
Well from this link provided it would seem she married a trannie. Well that was how I read it when I took the time?

, wonder how much sleep she lost over this... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/clerk-who-refuses-to-marry-lgbt-couples-performed-trans-mans-marriage_55e343d5e4b0c818f6183433
andy hughes. To quote Ronnie Barker are you getting your worms dixed up? Did you or do you write leaflets and pamphlets for our local council?
///Davis issued the marriage certificate without asking for Colen's birth certificate///

Perhaps you should have taken more time?
On Friday, Davis filed an emergency request with the court to put a temporary hold on a lower court ruling that effectively // forces her to begin marrying gay couples. Doing so would violate her religious beliefs, the petition says.//
She carries out the Marriage Admin, NOT the ceremony...
http://i60.tinypic.com/219s0sp.jpg

Don't let them turn you into a lier.
This is what I love about (most) people today.

The support offered to gay people by the vast majority of straight people is bloody heartening....just fantastic.

Imagine this thread 30, or even 20 years ago - I can imagine quite a different reaction.

Like I say - (most) people are just flipping brilliant! If you're passing these attitudes onto your children/grandchildren, then the world will be a much better place in a few years time.

But TTT regarding the question - from what I see, is it not true that these people can't pick and chose which official they get their marriage licence from?

If that's the case, in what way are they 'bullying'?

Why do you say that gay couples have 'gone around trying to find people to bully'? Are you including this case?
Well I have waded through it all again. I will now have to decide whether I am Christian or Homophobic. Nuts or crackers. Evil or Bemused or all of these things at the same time. I am many faceted but have one face. As opposed to....................
One other quick question - this 'Christian' has been divorced three times.

Is she really in a position to use her faith to prop up her bigotry.

1) So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man put asunder (Matthew 19:6 & Mark 10:9).

2) Whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery(Matthew 5:32, 19:9 & Luke 16:18).

3) "Whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery" (Matthew 5:32).

4) "...whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her" (Mark 10:11 & Luke 16:18), which applies to women as well (Mark 10:12).

Hoorah for hypocrites.

Love 'em
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Leviticus 20:13
And yet so much of Leviticus 19 goes unheeded.....
divebuddy

My point is that when some people of faith use the Bible to support their arguments, they conveniently ignore the parts which they cannot live up to themselves.

Buffet faith.
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I only use the bible to support an argument when it is used as an example to support an argument that is not my viewpoint. You started that sp.
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Buffet faith? Are you a Gateau child?

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