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The Oldest Gay In The Village
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How cool is this guy ...
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Every year, he takes part in the Pride Parade ... on his mobility scooter !!
He carries a banner saying " I'm the oldest gay in the village".
In the past, he has been given a criminal conviction for being gay. This weekend, he married his BF, to coincide with Pride Weekend.
That's the way to go when you're in your 90s!
http://
Every year, he takes part in the Pride Parade ... on his mobility scooter !!
He carries a banner saying " I'm the oldest gay in the village".
In the past, he has been given a criminal conviction for being gay. This weekend, he married his BF, to coincide with Pride Weekend.
That's the way to go when you're in your 90s!
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I'm curious to know what JJ will get from the Eds when her thread goes over 300.....☺
10:56 Tue 04th Aug 2015
The thing is ... I think ...
At different times, in different societies, there have been many things that have sometimes been allowed, sometimes forbidden, sometimes accepted, sometimes frowned upon.
It's a mistake to take a little snapshot of time, and to believe that we have reached a "perfect point" regarding what is, and what is not, acceptable.
For instance, things that have at times been accepted, and at times not, include ...
- smoking in pubs
- driving home from the pub
- using a phone whilst driving (do we all remember the first car phones ... attached to a box between the front seats ... specifically designed for the driver to use ... and would the "Carphone Warehouse" still be called that, if it was starting today?)
- same gender sexual relationships
- having a glass of wine (think Prohibition!)
- riding a motorbike without a helmet (some countries believe helmets lead to more accidents because the rider is less aware of the surrounding traffic)
Etc ...
My point is that there are no absolutes of right and wrong.
Even tolerance is a grey area. Should we tolerate drug smokers, as long as they stick to the beach, and not the town centre? (okay, that is actually what happens here. But then, as you'll appreciate, we have a high tolerance level around here).
Why am I rambling on like this?
Because we are all the way we are. We all have different beliefs and tolerances. If someone (eg another ABer) does not feel tolerant of something that we do, then we should not turn on them. We should take the approach ... your view is interesting, but I firmly disagree with it, so let's debate the issue.
But we shouldn't abuse each other.
There are two big red herrings.
(1) Whether something is legal or not does not represent an absolute measure of moral right/wrong because, as illustrated above, things can be legal at one time, and not legal at other times.
(2) Being "tolerant" does not, of itself, create a moral high ground. There are things of which I am tolerant, because they don't affect me personally, about which other people become quite heated. I am tolerant of teenage drug takers if they keep it down on the beach. I am tolerant of speeding drivers if they don't cause an accident. I am tolerant of loud night life, and drunks in the street, because I just happen to have chosen to live near the centre of a lively town. But merely being tolerant doesn't make me right, and being intolerant doesn't turn other people into Daily Mail readers. It's just the way we are.
So anyway, the punch line to this is ... maybe we should accept people's views, no matter how much they clash with our own.
Apart from anything else, we need lots of different viewpoints to keep the thread going. My PayPal account is looking quite healthy today since The Ed sent me my cut of the advertising revenue for getting 200 posts. If we get to 500 (note to self: don't tempt fate!) I think I get allotted some Shares in Answerbank Ltd.
At different times, in different societies, there have been many things that have sometimes been allowed, sometimes forbidden, sometimes accepted, sometimes frowned upon.
It's a mistake to take a little snapshot of time, and to believe that we have reached a "perfect point" regarding what is, and what is not, acceptable.
For instance, things that have at times been accepted, and at times not, include ...
- smoking in pubs
- driving home from the pub
- using a phone whilst driving (do we all remember the first car phones ... attached to a box between the front seats ... specifically designed for the driver to use ... and would the "Carphone Warehouse" still be called that, if it was starting today?)
- same gender sexual relationships
- having a glass of wine (think Prohibition!)
- riding a motorbike without a helmet (some countries believe helmets lead to more accidents because the rider is less aware of the surrounding traffic)
Etc ...
My point is that there are no absolutes of right and wrong.
Even tolerance is a grey area. Should we tolerate drug smokers, as long as they stick to the beach, and not the town centre? (okay, that is actually what happens here. But then, as you'll appreciate, we have a high tolerance level around here).
Why am I rambling on like this?
Because we are all the way we are. We all have different beliefs and tolerances. If someone (eg another ABer) does not feel tolerant of something that we do, then we should not turn on them. We should take the approach ... your view is interesting, but I firmly disagree with it, so let's debate the issue.
But we shouldn't abuse each other.
There are two big red herrings.
(1) Whether something is legal or not does not represent an absolute measure of moral right/wrong because, as illustrated above, things can be legal at one time, and not legal at other times.
(2) Being "tolerant" does not, of itself, create a moral high ground. There are things of which I am tolerant, because they don't affect me personally, about which other people become quite heated. I am tolerant of teenage drug takers if they keep it down on the beach. I am tolerant of speeding drivers if they don't cause an accident. I am tolerant of loud night life, and drunks in the street, because I just happen to have chosen to live near the centre of a lively town. But merely being tolerant doesn't make me right, and being intolerant doesn't turn other people into Daily Mail readers. It's just the way we are.
So anyway, the punch line to this is ... maybe we should accept people's views, no matter how much they clash with our own.
Apart from anything else, we need lots of different viewpoints to keep the thread going. My PayPal account is looking quite healthy today since The Ed sent me my cut of the advertising revenue for getting 200 posts. If we get to 500 (note to self: don't tempt fate!) I think I get allotted some Shares in Answerbank Ltd.
AOG - //andy-hughes
/// so you can calm down now and cease being his champion - I am sure he will comment to me directly if he feels the need. ///
And how many have you championed in the past? You should practice what you continuously preach. //
This has been a seriously long thread, and a lot of people have expressed a lot of opinions, and yet again, you single me out to battle with.
I really have no idea why you do this - do I really irritate you so much?
History will show that I have certainly given as good a I have got, but I do believe that I try to stick to the opinions and not to get too far into fighting with individuals.
But again, you are pushing me into a fight, and I am absolutely not going to allow myself to spoil JJ's thread by getting drawn into battling with you.
If you really find my posts so objectionable that you have to pick fault with every single one of them then I think that says more about you than about me.
Take a deep breath, count to ten, and let's move on shall we?
/// so you can calm down now and cease being his champion - I am sure he will comment to me directly if he feels the need. ///
And how many have you championed in the past? You should practice what you continuously preach. //
This has been a seriously long thread, and a lot of people have expressed a lot of opinions, and yet again, you single me out to battle with.
I really have no idea why you do this - do I really irritate you so much?
History will show that I have certainly given as good a I have got, but I do believe that I try to stick to the opinions and not to get too far into fighting with individuals.
But again, you are pushing me into a fight, and I am absolutely not going to allow myself to spoil JJ's thread by getting drawn into battling with you.
If you really find my posts so objectionable that you have to pick fault with every single one of them then I think that says more about you than about me.
Take a deep breath, count to ten, and let's move on shall we?
AOG ... yes, okay, that was a slightly ironic own goal in my post.
But you will hopefully appreciate that, when I have a pop at the Daily Mail, I try to keep it good humoured.
I think the Mail sometimes set themselves up as an easy target ...
- They have a section dedicated to promoting female issues, and yet they never miss an opportunity to print photos of celebs in revealing clothes ... and they love expressions like "leggy" and "toned" and "nip slip" and "revealing".
- They write about so many issues in a tone of "you won't believe this, but ..."
So, when the Daily Mail set themselves up like that ... someone just HAS to throw the tomato.
And sometimes it's me.
But I try to make the tomato soft and light hearted.
But you will hopefully appreciate that, when I have a pop at the Daily Mail, I try to keep it good humoured.
I think the Mail sometimes set themselves up as an easy target ...
- They have a section dedicated to promoting female issues, and yet they never miss an opportunity to print photos of celebs in revealing clothes ... and they love expressions like "leggy" and "toned" and "nip slip" and "revealing".
- They write about so many issues in a tone of "you won't believe this, but ..."
So, when the Daily Mail set themselves up like that ... someone just HAS to throw the tomato.
And sometimes it's me.
But I try to make the tomato soft and light hearted.
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