Good Result At Last !

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-30273548

22 years...I bet he wasn't expecting that !

One paedophile down, another few thousand to go !

[mikey4444]

Just found this on this on the BBC Website ::::

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-30231750

This about as "institutional" as child abuse gets. Dreadful stories about the way that young lads were treated over 50 years ago. Read the testimony that one father gives, when he is alarmed about the extreme violence that was metered out to his young son. It brings tears to the eyes.

It would be easy to conclude that " all this happened a long time ago" But I am not convinced that this sort of thing has died out. When you consider what happened at Winterbourne View, you can't be sure that its stopped now.

The key to unlocking all this is to listen to the victims. They were dismissed years ago, and they weren't listened to. But now we must take the attitude that nothing is to be unbelievable and that we must "think the unthinkable"

[Canary42]

The hysteria surrounding this topic doesn't help.

See this link https://uk.tv.yahoo.com/lionel-blair-won-t-work-with-children-anymore-because-of-potential--false-claims--–-daily-tv-round-up-114226593.html for an example of a kid's response of "touch my nuts and you're dead" to a completely innocent children's entertainer - what are we teaching our children in trying to warn them - and don't overlook the fact that many such assaults are by fathers on their own offspring - these are far more difficult to unearth.

[Canary42]

Clarification: The in-family ones are mainly fathers on daughters.

[Daffy6543]

Very true Canary.

[hc4361]

mikey, I agree nobody wakes up one day and decides to be a paedophile.

I've said before that for every paedophile that commits the act there is an unknown number that struggle not to and never do. The sad thing is there is no help or support for those people and as you pointed out without help there is little prospect of any reduction in abuse cases in the future.

I don't know what the answer is. I'm not sure chemical or physical castration stops the abuse. It is well documented that paedophiles who acknowledge that their behaviour is wrong and really want to stop the urges can be helped by castration but paedophiles who are driven by more than sex drive and don't want to be castrated may become more prolific in their offending behaviour. It can be hard to determine who falls in to which category.

At least the police, CPS, the courts and society as a whole are sitting up, listening to the victims and taking action against offenders both historic and current. I just hope the think tanks can come up with some solutions for the long term.

[hc4361]

Canary, and step-fathers and mother's boyfriends although there have been cases of mothers abusing their sons.

[Cloverjo]

I agree with with hc4361. People should be able to go to a doctor, psychiatrist or someone similar, with the knowledge that they will be helped if they confess they have thoughts like this.
There are cases of men going to ask for help and have ended up with their computers being searched, been punished, lost their jobs. If other men see this happening, they are less likely to ask for help and a child might end up being abused when it could have been prevented.

[anotheoldgit]

And it is not only a male problem, according to this report there were up to 64,000 women paedophiles in the UK in 2009 and rising, although the Guardian chose to call them 'Child sex offenders'.

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2009/oct/04/uk-female-child-sex-offenders

[ummmm]

AOG - I think they may be called 'child sex offenders' in some cases because they didn't abuse children for their own sexual gratification.

[anotheoldgit]

And this piece of filth was only given 2 years.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2583647/Female-paedophile-21-jailed-two-years-sex-eight-year-old-boy-50-times-starting-16.html

[ummmm]

And that article calls her a paedophile.

[anotheoldgit]

ummmm

/// AOG - I think they may be called 'child sex offenders' in some cases because they didn't abuse children for their own sexual gratification. ///

Then who's sexual gratification was it for? certainly not the children's.

*** After Plymouth case shocked the nation, police say number of women abusing children is rising ***

[anotheoldgit]

ummmm

/// And that article calls her a paedophile. ///

Yes because that is the Daily Mail and not the Guardian.

[ummmm]

Because in the case of Vanessa George I believe she was encouraged to do it by a man who she forwarded the pictures to for his gratification.

[ummmm]

I'm not excusing what she did, btw...

[youngmafbog]

Couldn't agree more Mickey.

But for people like this I still think enforced castration before being let out is the only way.

[hc4361]

Enforced castration may not work and can aggravate the rate and type of offending.

[wolf63]

HC says

[wolf63]

HC says

[wolf63]

As HC says

I saw something on the web the other day about a guy who admitted to be sexually attracted to four year old girls. As you can imagine the lynch mob started their threats.

I believe that the guy was only trying to hi-light the problem, that there are men who are sexually attracted to children who do nothing to harm them as they know that it is wrong. He had never touched a child and said that he never would.

If help was to be made available for men such as this to help them to deal with feelings that disgust them it would maybe prevent future attacks. But the mindless morons would probably hound the guy to death.

Found article -

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/nov/24/channel-4-documentary-paedophile