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Breaking On Sky News: 1.7 Billion Bill To Be Paid
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over 2 installments apparently.
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Ah the old smoke and mirrors trick !.
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The reality is that Cameron has been offered a way to 'save face' we are paying 1/2 the bill £850 million in 2 instalments. BUT we are losing the rebate of £850 million which we would have got under the original plan.
So net result is that Cameron can claim to have won when in reality all that has happened is we are being allowed to pay in instalments, 2 payments of £425million plus not getting the £850million rebate. Total to EU £1.7 billion as before but spread over a year rather than in a lump sum.
Rather like a person who is fined by a court asking for time to pay.
Plus he has been told in no uncertain terms that his idea of limiting EU migration is not even up for discussion. Notice how he is very quiet about that!
So net result is that Cameron can claim to have won when in reality all that has happened is we are being allowed to pay in instalments, 2 payments of £425million plus not getting the £850million rebate. Total to EU £1.7 billion as before but spread over a year rather than in a lump sum.
Rather like a person who is fined by a court asking for time to pay.
Plus he has been told in no uncertain terms that his idea of limiting EU migration is not even up for discussion. Notice how he is very quiet about that!
It looks like alot of tough talking from all sides (for the benefit of the various electorates involved) and then smiles and handshakes behind closed doors.
'Tell you what, we''l let you pay half up front but get it back later from the rebate' - 'Great, but we said we wouldn't pay straight away' - 'Instalments then, so you can say you delayed it like you promised' - 'Briliiant, sounds like a plan' - 'Yes, if no-one rocks the boat we could all come out of this looking like winners. The common people are idiots - by the time of your election no-one will remember any of this'.
'Tell you what, we''l let you pay half up front but get it back later from the rebate' - 'Great, but we said we wouldn't pay straight away' - 'Instalments then, so you can say you delayed it like you promised' - 'Briliiant, sounds like a plan' - 'Yes, if no-one rocks the boat we could all come out of this looking like winners. The common people are idiots - by the time of your election no-one will remember any of this'.
My own tkae on political matters is that government and opposition are closer to The Thick Of It/In The Loop than we would ever dare imagine.
To digress a tad, the events of the last 18 months must be manna from heaven to Armando Ianucci and his team and another one-off/special must surely be in the offing, fingers crossed.
To digress a tad, the events of the last 18 months must be manna from heaven to Armando Ianucci and his team and another one-off/special must surely be in the offing, fingers crossed.
There is a silver lining to all this.
Our rebate from the EU is based on a percentage of our annual payment. Because our annual payment has gone up, so will our rebate.
Look forward to Osborne claiming to have clawed back a bigger rebate.
I would guess he will be shouting this sometime around next April/May ish.
Our rebate from the EU is based on a percentage of our annual payment. Because our annual payment has gone up, so will our rebate.
Look forward to Osborne claiming to have clawed back a bigger rebate.
I would guess he will be shouting this sometime around next April/May ish.
Strangely enough, Ed Balls summed it up succinctly by describing the Cameron/Osborne claims as 'smoke and mirrors'. The only problem is that much of the UK's electorate is regularly taken in by smoke and mirrors! As has been made clear in answers above, we taxpayers will be paying the full amount demanded and the 'conjurors' already named have saved us not a single penny.
What are you on about this time, Svejk? For a start, I read all the answers, I referred to the gullibility of the electorate as a whole, not specifically AB members, and this is the first time I set eyes on the thread, so your comments on my offering are, as so often, absurd.
YOU wrote, “Yes, lot of 'double-talk' coming from Osborne & Cameron, imo.”
ED BALLS said Cameron and Osborne’s claims were “all smoke and mirrors.”
I wrote about, “the conjurors' already named”…in other words, the smoke and mirrors and double talk men, Cameron and Osborne.
The three key phrases, double-talk, smoke and mirrors and conjurors, ALL relating to Cameron and Osborne, seem to be saying exactly the same thing!
It seems that, even when I agree with you, I’ve got it wrong! Don't expect any further contribution from me here.
YOU wrote, “Yes, lot of 'double-talk' coming from Osborne & Cameron, imo.”
ED BALLS said Cameron and Osborne’s claims were “all smoke and mirrors.”
I wrote about, “the conjurors' already named”…in other words, the smoke and mirrors and double talk men, Cameron and Osborne.
The three key phrases, double-talk, smoke and mirrors and conjurors, ALL relating to Cameron and Osborne, seem to be saying exactly the same thing!
It seems that, even when I agree with you, I’ve got it wrong! Don't expect any further contribution from me here.
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