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Outed Internet Troll Dead
I was shocked to read the orginal report of this woman trolling the McCanns and am doubly shocked by this news report
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I cannot begin to understand what motivates some seemingly 'decent' people to become internet trolls but it seems the shame is too much to bear in this case.
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I cannot begin to understand what motivates some seemingly 'decent' people to become internet trolls but it seems the shame is too much to bear in this case.
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kvalidir - "dome people experience online bullying in exactly the same way they do face to face bullying and it's not helpful of those of us who don't to assume it's more trivial than it is to these people."
Please let me make myself clear - I am not for one moment suggesting that bullying in any form is trivial, or that it should be ignored or dismissed.
What I am saying is that the bullying media - Twitter and Facebook - are in and of themselves trivia, and anyone who is finding the interaction experience upsetting in any way has only to stop using it for the bullying to cease instantly.
As I have pointed out, social media is desireable, bot not essential - and if using it does you more harm than good, then in common with any other aspect of your life which you do not need, but which does you harm - walk away from it.
Please let me make myself clear - I am not for one moment suggesting that bullying in any form is trivial, or that it should be ignored or dismissed.
What I am saying is that the bullying media - Twitter and Facebook - are in and of themselves trivia, and anyone who is finding the interaction experience upsetting in any way has only to stop using it for the bullying to cease instantly.
As I have pointed out, social media is desireable, bot not essential - and if using it does you more harm than good, then in common with any other aspect of your life which you do not need, but which does you harm - walk away from it.
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I wouldn't have wished this end on anybody.
However, when the story of her unmasking broke, I did smile at the irony of her 'right to say what she thought' now being extended to people across the country to comment on 'sweepyface'.
Too many people seem to focus on their 'rights' that they completely forget about their 'responsibilities'.
My sympathies go out to her family.
However, when the story of her unmasking broke, I did smile at the irony of her 'right to say what she thought' now being extended to people across the country to comment on 'sweepyface'.
Too many people seem to focus on their 'rights' that they completely forget about their 'responsibilities'.
My sympathies go out to her family.
jackthehat - "I wouldn't have wished this end on anybody.
However, when the story of her unmasking broke, I did smile at the irony of her 'right to say what she thought' now being extended to people across the country to comment on 'sweepyface'.
Too many people seem to focus on their 'rights' that they completely forget about their 'responsibilities'.
My sympathies go out to her family."
Mine too - and to everyone involved in this whole sorry business.
It does bear out the points made earlier about the 'isloation' factor in expressing opinions on the Internet.
If you express an controversial oponion in public, you runk the risk of being judged on it by your peers and relatives, people whose opinions of you matter to you. You may even be challenegd to defend your viewpoint. This is what has always kept society's expresion of opinions under a degree of social control.
With the Internet, such control is absent, and anyone who can use a computer is leet loose to spew out whatever garbage - nonsensical to vitriolic - to the world at large without fear of redress, except via the same media, which can simply be ignored.
It does underline my personal position - I find the notion of offering my opions to total strangers to be a pointless waste of time. I am quite sure they have little or no interest in my views about anything, and similarly, I have little or no interest in theirs - the exercise is a futile waste of time.
As for the idea of letting complete stranger's opinion of me one way or the other matter one iota, again, i am exempt from such fripperies.
I do not count the AB community as strangers, and as advised - I was here doing this before social media was invented.
However, when the story of her unmasking broke, I did smile at the irony of her 'right to say what she thought' now being extended to people across the country to comment on 'sweepyface'.
Too many people seem to focus on their 'rights' that they completely forget about their 'responsibilities'.
My sympathies go out to her family."
Mine too - and to everyone involved in this whole sorry business.
It does bear out the points made earlier about the 'isloation' factor in expressing opinions on the Internet.
If you express an controversial oponion in public, you runk the risk of being judged on it by your peers and relatives, people whose opinions of you matter to you. You may even be challenegd to defend your viewpoint. This is what has always kept society's expresion of opinions under a degree of social control.
With the Internet, such control is absent, and anyone who can use a computer is leet loose to spew out whatever garbage - nonsensical to vitriolic - to the world at large without fear of redress, except via the same media, which can simply be ignored.
It does underline my personal position - I find the notion of offering my opions to total strangers to be a pointless waste of time. I am quite sure they have little or no interest in my views about anything, and similarly, I have little or no interest in theirs - the exercise is a futile waste of time.
As for the idea of letting complete stranger's opinion of me one way or the other matter one iota, again, i am exempt from such fripperies.
I do not count the AB community as strangers, and as advised - I was here doing this before social media was invented.
ladybirder, as I've said, I don't know that what she did was bullying. For one thing, she wasn't talking to the McCanns, but about them. The only comment I've seen attributed to her was that they should suffer for the rest of their lives, which they are doing anyway; as they've said they ignore social media, that would have been an entirely ineffectual piece of bullying if it was one at all. She may have said other, far worse things (though the gist of the Sky piece seemed to be that she hadn't); but personally, I would have thought that was well within the limits of fair comment. (Poor taste or plain wrong; but that's still permissible.)
The other issue is invading this woman's privacy. We all have right to privacy on social media - I'm exercising mine right now - and I'm unconvinced that there was any justification for Sky removing hers.
The other issue is invading this woman's privacy. We all have right to privacy on social media - I'm exercising mine right now - and I'm unconvinced that there was any justification for Sky removing hers.
Sipowicz - "What goes around comes around springs to mind."
Does it?
This woman has leapt on a bandwaggon of using annonymous means to expresss unpleasant opinions, and now she is dead, apparentlyu suicide for reasons as yet uknown to the general public.
I don't see that unpleasant opinions possibly results in death as a 'go around / come around' scenario.
Does it?
This woman has leapt on a bandwaggon of using annonymous means to expresss unpleasant opinions, and now she is dead, apparentlyu suicide for reasons as yet uknown to the general public.
I don't see that unpleasant opinions possibly results in death as a 'go around / come around' scenario.
// It does underline my personal position - I find the notion of offering my opions to total strangers to be a pointless waste of time. I am quite sure they have little or no interest in my views about anything, and similarly, I have little or no interest in theirs - the exercise is a futile waste of time. //
That whole paragraph is oxymoronic andy. You wouldn't have bothered writing it if it were true, in fact you wouldn't even be reading the thread.
That whole paragraph is oxymoronic andy. You wouldn't have bothered writing it if it were true, in fact you wouldn't even be reading the thread.
ludwig - "// It does underline my personal position - I find the notion of offering my opions to total strangers to be a pointless waste of time. I am quite sure they have little or no interest in my views about anything, and similarly, I have little or no interest in theirs - the exercise is a futile waste of time. //
That whole paragraph is oxymoronic andy. You wouldn't have bothered writing it if it were true, in fact you wouldn't even be reading the thread."
Not in fact true ludwig.
I do not regard the AB as 'social media' in the Twitter / Facebook concept of that term - may I refer you to my post of 10:41 this morning (excuse typos!) -
"hc4361 - "andy-hughes, surely AnswerBank is a form of social media?"
Indeed it is, but it predates Facebook and Twitter by a number of years.
I am on here because I was employed as a writer when the site started in 2000, and I have stayed here ever since.
I think the site differs from Twitter and facebook in that its raison d'etre is the request and supply of information, which has expanded into debate forum.
As advises, its managebale size means 'trolling' is not tollerated, and therefore it remains a site to ask and answer questions, and to debate and interact with like-minded (or not so like-minded) souls.
For it is a world away from the endless pointlessness of Twitter et al."
I think that explains my position regarding The Answerbank, and its fundamnetal difference in approach and usage, from the standard 'chat' sites for which I have no time.
That whole paragraph is oxymoronic andy. You wouldn't have bothered writing it if it were true, in fact you wouldn't even be reading the thread."
Not in fact true ludwig.
I do not regard the AB as 'social media' in the Twitter / Facebook concept of that term - may I refer you to my post of 10:41 this morning (excuse typos!) -
"hc4361 - "andy-hughes, surely AnswerBank is a form of social media?"
Indeed it is, but it predates Facebook and Twitter by a number of years.
I am on here because I was employed as a writer when the site started in 2000, and I have stayed here ever since.
I think the site differs from Twitter and facebook in that its raison d'etre is the request and supply of information, which has expanded into debate forum.
As advises, its managebale size means 'trolling' is not tollerated, and therefore it remains a site to ask and answer questions, and to debate and interact with like-minded (or not so like-minded) souls.
For it is a world away from the endless pointlessness of Twitter et al."
I think that explains my position regarding The Answerbank, and its fundamnetal difference in approach and usage, from the standard 'chat' sites for which I have no time.
AOG has made a sensible point.
At the moment, we don't know that a) she killed herself and b) even if she did, that she killed herself because of being outed.
Who knows - she may have been diagnosed with terminal cancer. She may have accidentally taken a drugs overdose.
We simply don't know.
If, however, it *does* transpire that she killed herself because she was outed! then the whole thing is very sad indeed...and so completely unnecessary. A few ugly words directed at complete strangers.
At the moment, we don't know that a) she killed herself and b) even if she did, that she killed herself because of being outed.
Who knows - she may have been diagnosed with terminal cancer. She may have accidentally taken a drugs overdose.
We simply don't know.
If, however, it *does* transpire that she killed herself because she was outed! then the whole thing is very sad indeed...and so completely unnecessary. A few ugly words directed at complete strangers.
Hypognosis
/// FB and twitter have hundreds of millions of users each: you'd need computer code to home in on offensive posts ///
It has been known to happen.
*** The initial post in which the feminist activist questions where the terror group are 'getting all these folks from' was deleted. ***
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/// FB and twitter have hundreds of millions of users each: you'd need computer code to home in on offensive posts ///
It has been known to happen.
*** The initial post in which the feminist activist questions where the terror group are 'getting all these folks from' was deleted. ***
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// same here, ludwig: the last thing I want is Murdoch's minions with camera and sound crew knocking on the door and demanding that I be less bland in future posts. //
Exactly. It doesn't sound as if she's said anything worse than many on here have said on the various threads about the McCann case over the years.
Exactly. It doesn't sound as if she's said anything worse than many on here have said on the various threads about the McCann case over the years.
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