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The Duke And Duchess Of Cambridge Have Taken Legal Action Against Two Paparazzi Photographers
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Are the Duke & Duchess right to expect privacy from watching cameras, when they choose to allow their nanny to walk young Prince George in public parks?
Or is this just a reasonable reaction by Prince William taking into consideration his mothers untimely death, fleeing the paparazzi?
Are the Duke & Duchess right to expect privacy from watching cameras, when they choose to allow their nanny to walk young Prince George in public parks?
Or is this just a reasonable reaction by Prince William taking into consideration his mothers untimely death, fleeing the paparazzi?
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ChillDoubt - Bar a picture of him vomiting on his nanny or having his index digit up his nose to the second knuckle, what would be that one spectacular that they're hoping for?
Do enlighten me! This should be interesting......."
As bizarre as those suggestions are, they are eactly the kind of pictures that sell to foreign, and indeed domestic magaazines.
Anyone with todlers knows that there are endless times during a typical day when they are doing things that you would not want recorded for poesterity - but the fact that George is a prince means that his 'indiscretions' have financial value.
I know, it's weird, but I find the notion of picutres of strangers' weddings to be something I am not desparate for, so i never buy or read Hello magazine.
There is a market out there for these pictures, and it is massive and lucrative, which is why paparazzi go to the lengths they do to get the shots that will sell.
I recall Koo Stark, onetime consort of Prince Andrew, being followed through the streets of cental London on her scooter, by a pap who stopped behind her and attempted to wrench her crash helmet off before she had unfastened it, such was his desire to get a 'candid' picture.
It is weird, and unsavoury, but we have the press we deserve.
Do enlighten me! This should be interesting......."
As bizarre as those suggestions are, they are eactly the kind of pictures that sell to foreign, and indeed domestic magaazines.
Anyone with todlers knows that there are endless times during a typical day when they are doing things that you would not want recorded for poesterity - but the fact that George is a prince means that his 'indiscretions' have financial value.
I know, it's weird, but I find the notion of picutres of strangers' weddings to be something I am not desparate for, so i never buy or read Hello magazine.
There is a market out there for these pictures, and it is massive and lucrative, which is why paparazzi go to the lengths they do to get the shots that will sell.
I recall Koo Stark, onetime consort of Prince Andrew, being followed through the streets of cental London on her scooter, by a pap who stopped behind her and attempted to wrench her crash helmet off before she had unfastened it, such was his desire to get a 'candid' picture.
It is weird, and unsavoury, but we have the press we deserve.
But again as I've said, we are talking about a one year old boy.
We're hardly going to see him stumbling out of a nightclub or a snap of him with his arm around the latest 'squeeze', are we?
IMHO the Royals have taken the right step in regards to this pap, who appears to be chasing a 'spectacular' when the personnel and circumstances make it impossible and decidedly uncomfortable.
The man in the street would be deemed a stalker or even branded a paedophile for attempting to take pictures of a one year old in a normal public setting.
We're hardly going to see him stumbling out of a nightclub or a snap of him with his arm around the latest 'squeeze', are we?
IMHO the Royals have taken the right step in regards to this pap, who appears to be chasing a 'spectacular' when the personnel and circumstances make it impossible and decidedly uncomfortable.
The man in the street would be deemed a stalker or even branded a paedophile for attempting to take pictures of a one year old in a normal public setting.
Tizzi24 - "I think it's a reasonable reaction. William must have his mother's death on his mind a lot of the time and the paparazzi should leave them alone and let them live their lives as normally as they can. Nobody should be stalked, be they royalty or not."
I entirely agree, no-one should be hounded in this way, but as long as there is this constant demand for 'candid' pictures, and they attract the life-changing sums they do, then paparazzi are an unfortunate fact of life, or as in the case of Princess Diana - death.
I entirely agree, no-one should be hounded in this way, but as long as there is this constant demand for 'candid' pictures, and they attract the life-changing sums they do, then paparazzi are an unfortunate fact of life, or as in the case of Princess Diana - death.
ChillDoubt - "Again I have to ask, what 'candid' pictures are you expecting of a one year old boy???"
I am not expecting any candid pictures!!
As advised, the market for such pictures remains a mystery to me, I could not begin to explain why people want to see photographs of celebrities falling out of taxis, or dropping food down their fronts, or any of the other nonsensical things that get photographed - but others do, and there is a massive worldwide market for such pictures. I merely comment on the fact that the phenomenon exists, I can't claim any understanding of it.
"Pictures of a one year old going about their daily routine should NOT be made public property, regardless of their status."
No argument there.
I am not expecting any candid pictures!!
As advised, the market for such pictures remains a mystery to me, I could not begin to explain why people want to see photographs of celebrities falling out of taxis, or dropping food down their fronts, or any of the other nonsensical things that get photographed - but others do, and there is a massive worldwide market for such pictures. I merely comment on the fact that the phenomenon exists, I can't claim any understanding of it.
"Pictures of a one year old going about their daily routine should NOT be made public property, regardless of their status."
No argument there.
weecalf - "Willy & katy shouldn't go worring them selves to much about ."
I think their worry is justified.
George in a park with his nanny is an ordinary baby in the park.
George surrounded by a pack of paparazzi flashing away and attracting a crowd is an extraordinary baby.
People who would not normally look twice at a baby in the park become curious, and a crowd develops.
That's how George and is nanny get identified - possible security issues follow - it's all needless if the child can be left alone, while he is still able to escape the public glare based on his birthright.
I think their worry is justified.
George in a park with his nanny is an ordinary baby in the park.
George surrounded by a pack of paparazzi flashing away and attracting a crowd is an extraordinary baby.
People who would not normally look twice at a baby in the park become curious, and a crowd develops.
That's how George and is nanny get identified - possible security issues follow - it's all needless if the child can be left alone, while he is still able to escape the public glare based on his birthright.
If the case would if ever go court and they loose where does it leave the situation .If they win and it a cold wet march night and their publicist phones up the daily rag to tell them willy and kate will be at somewhere the rag boss say nay their no story there I wont be sending one of our chaps /lassies .
weecalf - "If the case would if ever go court and they loose where does it leave the situation .If they win and it a cold wet march night and their publicist phones up the daily rag to tell them willy and kate will be at somewhere the rag boss say nay their no story there I wont be sending one of our chaps /lassies ."
I am not sure of the point you are making here.
" ...their publicist phones up the daily rag to tell them willy and kate will be at somewhere ..."
Do you honestly think the Roayl Family have a 'publicist'? Pop stars and 'celebrities' have publicists who are paid to get their clients in the papers.
The Royals have absolutely no need of any such person.
The various palaces have a Press Secretary who will brief the media about events being attended - but they will all be functions, and nothing that the taboids are likely to bother with.
The W & K win their case, then this particular pap has to seek prey elsewhere - it will not stop the rest.
I am not sure of the point you are making here.
" ...their publicist phones up the daily rag to tell them willy and kate will be at somewhere ..."
Do you honestly think the Roayl Family have a 'publicist'? Pop stars and 'celebrities' have publicists who are paid to get their clients in the papers.
The Royals have absolutely no need of any such person.
The various palaces have a Press Secretary who will brief the media about events being attended - but they will all be functions, and nothing that the taboids are likely to bother with.
The W & K win their case, then this particular pap has to seek prey elsewhere - it will not stop the rest.
anneasquith - "not much difference from a press secretary and a publicist really.? both promoting their clients ( celebrities ) :)"
I think there is - compare Dickie Arbiter and Max Clifford!
A Press Secretary is paid to sift through the thousands of requests for the Royal Family's time.
A Publicist is paid to go out and generate press for a client who otherwise would not be in the papers.
That's the difference between them.
I think there is - compare Dickie Arbiter and Max Clifford!
A Press Secretary is paid to sift through the thousands of requests for the Royal Family's time.
A Publicist is paid to go out and generate press for a client who otherwise would not be in the papers.
That's the difference between them.
douglas9401 - "In the great scheme of things there's not that big a gulf between a couple of photos of somebody with a degree of fame and the rambling witterings of a musician with a degree of fame."
Actually there is.
A 'celebrity' is famous for being there, a musician is famous for a specific talent.
Think White Dee and Mick Jagger - spot the difference?
Actually there is.
A 'celebrity' is famous for being there, a musician is famous for a specific talent.
Think White Dee and Mick Jagger - spot the difference?
I think they are like film stars and part of our (don't know exactly what to call it) amusement (?) and as such cannot expect to stay out of the limelight. If they try too much so that we never see them they will lose our admiration and we will move on to the ones which we can see. Personally I do not care one way or another and certainly would not like to be subjected to such attention. But if you have star status you have to put up with it. Just saying!
starone - "But if you have star status you have to put up with it. Just saying!"
I have mixed with hundreds of world famous musicians, and I have seen close-up how the press attention works.
Two weekends ago, I attended the London Acoustic Festival, and star guest was Nile Rogers. I followed Mr Rogers down the road from his hotel and into the building. He was accomapied by two female staff members from the Festival, carrying his guitar on his back in a soft case.
That guitar has played on every track he has recorded or produced - over two billion dollars worth of music, but he carried it like it was his lunch.
After the show, Nile walked back to his hotel, with his guitar on his back alone, and utterly unmolested.
Had he walked down surrounded by six large gentlemen with crew cuts and stern faces muttering into radios, he'd have gathered a crowd of paps in about thirty seconds.
'Stardom' is what you want it to be - or indeed - not.
I have mixed with hundreds of world famous musicians, and I have seen close-up how the press attention works.
Two weekends ago, I attended the London Acoustic Festival, and star guest was Nile Rogers. I followed Mr Rogers down the road from his hotel and into the building. He was accomapied by two female staff members from the Festival, carrying his guitar on his back in a soft case.
That guitar has played on every track he has recorded or produced - over two billion dollars worth of music, but he carried it like it was his lunch.
After the show, Nile walked back to his hotel, with his guitar on his back alone, and utterly unmolested.
Had he walked down surrounded by six large gentlemen with crew cuts and stern faces muttering into radios, he'd have gathered a crowd of paps in about thirty seconds.
'Stardom' is what you want it to be - or indeed - not.
Good to know Nile Rogers is that grounded.
I have spent a fair amount of time with recognisable people - mostly actors.
The aspect of being out in public with them is that whilst most people are either oblivious or unbothered, there is often a 'fan' who appears and sometimes (several occasions in my presence) people turn up who are intrusive, rude or even aggressive. *** law is that often happens at the worst time.
One of my friends is a well known actor and I believe he is usually very generous with his time but one evening we went for a quiet drink when he was worried about his daughter's health and a persistent 'comedian' nearly produced an ugly incident. 'Now you know why I never get the tube' said my mate.
I have spent a fair amount of time with recognisable people - mostly actors.
The aspect of being out in public with them is that whilst most people are either oblivious or unbothered, there is often a 'fan' who appears and sometimes (several occasions in my presence) people turn up who are intrusive, rude or even aggressive. *** law is that often happens at the worst time.
One of my friends is a well known actor and I believe he is usually very generous with his time but one evening we went for a quiet drink when he was worried about his daughter's health and a persistent 'comedian' nearly produced an ugly incident. 'Now you know why I never get the tube' said my mate.
Zeuhl - "The aspect of being out in public with them is that whilst most people are either oblivious or unbothered,"
i would agree, based on similar experiences.
Most people would think 'That guy looks exactly like ...' but because there is no hoard of minders with attention-seeking behaviour, it's unlikely to be the famous person.
Although, I did experience an amusing incident that does knock that on its head - and prove that old people don't listen.
I was at Alton Towers, out in the gardens and away from the melee in the theme park, with a Granada TV crew who were filming a segment of Cliff Richard for a show.
There was Cliff walking along by the river, mining to a back track that was booming out, surrounded by a camera and sound crew, and various Granada people, and me as the 'token' press person.
So people could be forgiven for knowing that this was indeed the real Sir Cliff - but no, apparently not.
A little old couple mandered down the path during a short break, and the little old lady walked up to the pop knight and advised him that he looked exactly like Cliff Richard!
"I am Cliff Richard..." confirmed the decorated Peter Pan of Pop.
"Oh yes dear, very nice ..." said the old lady who had clearly not heard a word he had said!
Days like that are rare, but very well worth it!
i would agree, based on similar experiences.
Most people would think 'That guy looks exactly like ...' but because there is no hoard of minders with attention-seeking behaviour, it's unlikely to be the famous person.
Although, I did experience an amusing incident that does knock that on its head - and prove that old people don't listen.
I was at Alton Towers, out in the gardens and away from the melee in the theme park, with a Granada TV crew who were filming a segment of Cliff Richard for a show.
There was Cliff walking along by the river, mining to a back track that was booming out, surrounded by a camera and sound crew, and various Granada people, and me as the 'token' press person.
So people could be forgiven for knowing that this was indeed the real Sir Cliff - but no, apparently not.
A little old couple mandered down the path during a short break, and the little old lady walked up to the pop knight and advised him that he looked exactly like Cliff Richard!
"I am Cliff Richard..." confirmed the decorated Peter Pan of Pop.
"Oh yes dear, very nice ..." said the old lady who had clearly not heard a word he had said!
Days like that are rare, but very well worth it!
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