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Raf Jets Could Be Bombing Jihadis By The Weekend.

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anotheoldgit | 10:55 Wed 24th Sep 2014 | News
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2767277/RAF-jets-bombing-jihadis-weekend-Cameron-signs-military-action-against-ISIS-militants.html

Can anyone tell me how bombing Islamic State fanatics in northern Iraq will make Britain safer from attacks?

To me this will only inflame the issue.

/// The Defence Secretary Mr Fallon told the Spectator magazine: 'We've had attacks on the streets of London, on our transport system, at Glasgow Airport, the murder of Lee Rigby – how much more evidence do you need that this is a very clear and dangerous threat to our way of life and to all the democracies of the West.

'This is a new Battle of Britain. ///

Doesn't he realise that we fought the Battle of Britain over the sky's of Southern England, not over some distant land?

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The political classes in Iraq aren't ready for democracy. When we, or rather the Americans and us, deposed Saddam we set in motion a train of events that led to ISIS gaining a foothold. We've fashioned a rod for our own back.
This lot are on another level when it comes to terrorism. They`re practically a brainwashed cult who are using Islam to act out their bloodthirsty fantasies and they will be more than happy to recruit locally based factions around the world. Dipomacy won`t work - you can reason with people who are brainwashed. The only way to deal with the situation is to kill the lot of them by whatever means. It would be nice to see more countries lending their firepower instead of it being left to the UK/US as usual.
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Sqad

/// Air strikes and if necessary "boots on the ground." ///

And you really think that by those methods we will either get them to surrender or wipe them from the face of the Earth, really?
Well said Sandy.
I can't see how we can stay out of it but Arab countries need to be committed too.
AOG, //I would use my resources, in the defence my own country and citizens first, before get involved in yet another costly and unwinnable war. //

But isn't any proposed action here ultimately for the purpose of defending your own country?
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Obviously to anyone who has been on AB for any length of time knows that I am nobodies puppet.
Talbot. Bit late for staying out of it. Read Naomi's excellent summary of atrocities in a separate thread.
////Obviously to anyone who has been on AB for any length of time knows that I am nobody's puppet.////

Except the Daily Mail of course - forever puppetting out their poisonous propaganda.
OK get more involved, it isn't going away any time soon.
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naomi24

/// But isn't any proposed action here ultimately for the purpose of defending your own country? ///

No you don't go round to the town's bully and have it out with him for just threatening to come round to your house and smash you up.

You take necessary measures and then wait until he may come around.
They have to be stopped at source,and so think a lot of nations.
AOG, that's what I'm trying to ascertain. What measures?
Razza, there are many examples illustrating the fact that it has not been stopped at source, already.
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Canary42

/// Except the Daily Mail of course - forever puppetting out their poisonous propaganda. ///

Just the regular unintelligent answer I have come to expect from you.

Last month you wrote:

"I live in my own little world but it's OK; everyone knows me here"

How very, very true.
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naomi24

/// AOG, that's what I'm trying to ascertain. What measures? ///

Wow you are demanding.

This is war and consequently we should adapt to war like situations, first the introduction of ID cards, and before you start "Yes but they could easily be counterfeited", so could £20 notes, but not many are or we would be in a pickle.

Then we should secure all our borders, and not to be afraid of increasing our security in case we offend certain sections of the community.

I am sure that our security services are in fact working away even as we speak, and so far we are fortunate that nothing yet has happened, but that does not mean it will stay that way if we go into their lands all guns blazing.
There is not an option to do nothing.

We bred a lot of this in our own country, thanks to Blair, Brown and a load of right-on liberals who insisted on labeling anyone who spoke up a racsist. You reap what you sow (or what Blair sowed in our case).

The problem, if you dont go after them in their own back yard is that they will grow and grow until they can attack you in yours. Taking the fight to them will occupy many of them over there diverting their attentions away from our streets.

This does have to be coupled with very strict controls at home. We are at war, internment has to be used for those who pose a threat. To do this we need to be out of the EU and opt out o the ECHR so we can control our borders and Police people in our own country.

It wont happen though and we will see the rise of hate preachers and Jihadists on our streets. The metropolitan liberal so called 'elite' will see to that.
AOG, //Wow you are demanding. //

I asked a question. Hardly demanding. Thanks for answering anyway.
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youngmafbog

/// The problem, if you dont go after them in their own back yard is that they will grow and grow until they can attack you in yours. Taking the fight to them will occupy many of them over there diverting their attentions away from our streets. ///

That would be so if we were fighting a known enemy in their own country, and they all wore a uniform to identify them, but we are not.

We are fighting an unrecognisable foe who lives in numerous countries, have we not learned a lesson from fighting the Taliban in just one country Afghanistan, did we wipe 'THEM' from the face of the Earth?
After they have beheaded as many British people they can find, and consolidated a vast area of the middle east, do you really think IS will leave us alone?
They will attack targets on UK mainland at the first opportunity.

To let them growth and be successful now will make the job 10 times harder when they start bombing our underground trains and buses.

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