What Do They Expect.......?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-29211526
Cover themselves in the daubings of a 10 year old and wonder why they don't get the job! Please!

[dunnitall]

I can't stand tattoos especially on women! Have to agree with mikey and IMO people who don't get jobs because of having defaced their bodies have no sympathy from me. If you want employment then there are codes to follow for most jobs, it's not a case of tattoos impeding the work you can do, it's whether you look presentable or not. This is another subject that we won't all agree on either way of course but surely people must see that 'looking the part or not' will depend on them getting a particular job. I think this has always been the case whether people think it's fair or not.

[woofgang]

well but "who says" what a good impression is and isn't? At one time a good impression as far as women were concerned was skirts to the ankle and always agreeing with blokes. A "good impression" for blokes was to always wear a hat in public and to defer to people perceived to be in a better class.
When I was younger and dinosaurs wandered the earth, I was warned that to make a "good impression" at interviews, I should wear skirts and tights and feminine shoes and not trousers and flat shoes. Makeup on women has variously, depending on the era you choose been on both the "good impresssion" and "not good impression" sides of the divide.
you get the idea......

[mikey4444]

FrogNog...its a good idea then, that its a free world and we are able to express our opinions or "prejudices" as you have it !

Answer me one question, if you would please......would you give a job to that person that I posted in the DM link, if that job required him to liaise with the general public ?

[FrogNog]

That depends doesn't it Mikey. If I needed a receptionist for a tattoo parlour I would. If I need a host for an old f4rt's club, probably not.
I wouldn't be rude enough to call him silly though.

[Cloverjo]

I agree, dunitall. People can do whatever they like to their bodies, but looking presentable is required for many jobs. Even chipped nail varnish put me off buying jewellery one time. Sorry, but true.
If the salesperson had had tattoos all over her/his face, I wouldn't even have gone in the shop. But I don't suppose he wants to work in a shop anyway.
I think tattoos can look lovely. But I've seen too many people with stars creeping up their necks and their children's names and dates on their arms or necks. Please, why?

[mikey4444]

Woofie...you can change your clothes and shoes, and indeed women do, with bewildering variety. You can change your make-up and your hair color. But tattoos are for life, unless you can afford painful and very expensive laser treatment. Isn't there a difference ?

[Obiter]

I can remember a time when tattoed ladies were confined to freak sideshows at fairs and you paid 6d to gawp at them.

[kvalidir]

We employ people regardless of tattoos and / or piercings and have, hold the front page!!! never noticed that it makes any difference whatsoever to their work ethic, their standard of effort and achievement within the work environment or that customers have run screaming terrified from the premises, in fact there is one very heavily tattooed and pierced young man who is a bit of a hit with the older ladies ( who don't seem off put or horrified) because he's so polite and obliging.
It doesn't matter. I don't care if my mortgage broker, bank manager, hair stylist, surgeon is tattooed or not, I just care how good they are at their jobs. This isn't the 1800's, it's the 21st century we should be above all forms of discrimination including this.

[mikey4444]

FrogNog...in the highly unlikely event of me owning a tattoo parlour, he would seem to be the ideal person to run it. But apart from tattoo parlours, where else do you think you would employ him ? Do you think he would make a good Teacher, or Dentist for instance ?

[Retrochic]

Just because someone has a different view from oneself does not necessarily mean they are predjudice. I come from a background and era where Tattoos were frowned on and deemed to be 'common' and for a woman to get one -well hello 'we all know what she did for a living' ? Those are not my words but the general consensus at the time. These days 'Tats' are much more acceptable especially for women and in fact two of my children one male one female have 'Tats' and have jobs in senior management but the 'Tats' are in places easily covered by clothing. Anyone who has visible Tats and then bemoans the fact they can't get a job, well I'm afraid its their own fault. Despite how clever or talented someone is if they are covered in visible Tats it gives the wrong impression and will preclude them from certain jobs, not all jobs but quite a few.

[Cloverjo]

And why do people have Chinese characters tattooed on them? I'm sure they can't read any Chinese language. It could say anything for all they know.

[FrogNog]

That would all depend if he was a good dentist or teacher Mikey. I don't share your prejudice so his tattoos would not sway my opinion of his credentials.

[FrogNog]

Yes it is prejudice retrochic. We don't tolerate slavery anymore but that was once the norm wasn't it?

[Obiter]

I don't read Chinese but I teased a woman who had Chinese characters tattoed on her arm. I asked her if she understood Chinese to which she replied no. I asked her what she thought it meant. She replied, "Good luck". I answered, "Almost right, just one letter out".

[aelmpvw]

it's up to the individual person whether they have tattoos or not and they don't bother me but i am puzzled why some chap from the midlands would want to look like a maori warrior

[Old_Geezer]

A slave had little say in whether they were a slave, it was abuse. Marring your skin in order to look different knowing it will affect others who don't know why you would want to look like that and make them feel wary of you, is a personal choice thing. So hardly comparable.

[naomi24]

If people want tattoos that’s their choice, but they must acknowledge that employers want to present their business in the way that they see fit, and they also have a choice. Personally, for a job that involves interaction with the public, or with business associates, I wouldn’t employ someone with tattoos – but I wouldn’t employ someone who was slovenly dressed or poorly groomed either.

[Retrochic]

Frognog what an absolutely stupid analogy. People choose to have Tatooes and as such have to take the consequences when some people find them offensive or jump to conclusions. I would not blink an eye if my hairdresser was covered in Tats, but would think twice about employing a nanny or child minder with the same skin decoration.

[jno]

But tattoos are for life, unless you can afford painful and very expensive laser treatment. Isn't there a difference ?

That's not what's being discussed here, though. The question is whether people with tats should be banned from jobs. In particular, whether they're unfit to work with children, which seems a ludicrous proposition to me. Why should a tattoo put you on a par with a paedophile?