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Ban On Smoking On Hospital Grounds
Do you agree with these proposals?
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I think it kinda makes sense really...especially if health trusts can offer free support (patches, gum, inhalers etc).
What do you think?
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I think it kinda makes sense really...especially if health trusts can offer free support (patches, gum, inhalers etc).
What do you think?
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SpikeyBush
"This is just bullying. If you smoke, you will only be able to quit when deep down YOU want to. No amount of ear bending by the state, your kids or even your partner will do it. YOU have to want to do it. And I write this post as an ex smoker who stopped 15 years ago when I was ready to for my own reasons."
Very true BUT staff who work in hospitals with patients should be at work smelling of fags and patients who wish to smoke while they are in hospital should not be able to discommode other patients by doing so.
I am not saying that ANYBODY should give up. If people who work with patients or in patient areas, can't go their whole work shift without smoking though, then maybe they should rethink whether working in the NHS is for them.
That's the problem with smokers though, anything wrong with them and they're generally in denial about smoking being a direct or indirect cause of it, when nothing about smoking will help them in their recovery.
And smoking during/after a panic attack? No effect?
REALLY?!
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And smoking during/after a panic attack? No effect?
REALLY?!
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craft1948
"I have been hospitalized twice due to what turned out to be panic attacks. So you think the added stress of not being able to smoke would help me..........you're mad if you think so."
Craft, you didn't specify the illness.
To be really horrible though, (sorry) smoking can increase the pulse rate, make you feel dizzy, make it harder to breathe, give pain due to artery constriction and make the panic symptoms worse.
Your quick answer leads me to believe you didn't read the link, craft.
Dec. 14, 1999 (Atlanta) -- If you think smoking calms you down, think again. A study of thousands of smokers shows that they are three times more likely than nonsmokers to have panic attacks and panic disorder.
"We know already a whole lot about the effects of smoking on just physical health, and now we are also starting to see the adverse effects in new research on mental illness," study co-author Naomi Breslau, PhD, tells WebMD. "This is one example."
A panic attack can have all sorts of symptoms: shortness of breath, dizziness, heart palpitations, trembling, sweating, choking, nausea, numbness, flushes or chills, loss of one's sense of reality, chest pain, fear of dying, and/or fear of going crazy. People who have frequent panic attacks (more than four in a month) or have persistent fear of having another attack for a month after an attack suffer from panic disorder.
Breslau says, "It's not simply that the two things go together, but it's suggesting that smoking is playing a causal role." According to Breslau, smoking increases a person's lifetime risk of a panic attack by three to four times.
Dec. 14, 1999 (Atlanta) -- If you think smoking calms you down, think again. A study of thousands of smokers shows that they are three times more likely than nonsmokers to have panic attacks and panic disorder.
"We know already a whole lot about the effects of smoking on just physical health, and now we are also starting to see the adverse effects in new research on mental illness," study co-author Naomi Breslau, PhD, tells WebMD. "This is one example."
A panic attack can have all sorts of symptoms: shortness of breath, dizziness, heart palpitations, trembling, sweating, choking, nausea, numbness, flushes or chills, loss of one's sense of reality, chest pain, fear of dying, and/or fear of going crazy. People who have frequent panic attacks (more than four in a month) or have persistent fear of having another attack for a month after an attack suffer from panic disorder.
Breslau says, "It's not simply that the two things go together, but it's suggesting that smoking is playing a causal role." According to Breslau, smoking increases a person's lifetime risk of a panic attack by three to four times.
Chill your quote " the benefits if stopping are felt in 20 mins", to that i say rubbish. Several years ago 1998 to be exact I stopped smoking. I was a perfect cow. Mic put up with it as did my work colleagues. When after 6 months I realised things were not improving I went back to the fags. Best thing I ever did, but like I said earlier I don't smoke much.
read my posts, especially this one.
" I was an Occupational Therapist, now retired. part of my job was to help people with disabilities to do for themselves WHATEVER they wanted provided that it was legal. if someone had wanted to be able to smoke then I would have helped them with the practicalities of that in their own homes. I do remember one lady who was very frail and lived in res care. she used to pass out when she smoked. her family wanted her to be stopped but the social worker, (non smoker) the care home rep (non smoker) and me (also non smoker) argued that she had the right to choose and the care home made sure that she always smoked seated and supervised. I really do believe in the right of adults to choose, to make choices that others might consider wrong and stupid, provided that those choices don't affect others. I would talk about smoking cessation options to my patients where it was appropriate but i believed that it wasn't right to force my views, or the views of my organisation, on other people in their own homes."
" I was an Occupational Therapist, now retired. part of my job was to help people with disabilities to do for themselves WHATEVER they wanted provided that it was legal. if someone had wanted to be able to smoke then I would have helped them with the practicalities of that in their own homes. I do remember one lady who was very frail and lived in res care. she used to pass out when she smoked. her family wanted her to be stopped but the social worker, (non smoker) the care home rep (non smoker) and me (also non smoker) argued that she had the right to choose and the care home made sure that she always smoked seated and supervised. I really do believe in the right of adults to choose, to make choices that others might consider wrong and stupid, provided that those choices don't affect others. I would talk about smoking cessation options to my patients where it was appropriate but i believed that it wasn't right to force my views, or the views of my organisation, on other people in their own homes."
A good idea. People can do without cigarettes when they really have to (think 13 hours from Singapore to Londong for example) but if they know they can have one, they will want one. A hospital is supposed to be somewhere that people go to to get better and puffing away isn`t conducive to that. Nobody is going to die because they can`t have a fag.
the nicotine mechanism is well known, I will try and find a link.
essentially IIRC when you start to smoke, the body "learns" to accommodate the toxins you inhale when you smoke. Eventually it creates the chemicals needed for that accommodation in preparation for the toxin that it expects. When that expected toxin doesn't come, the body's reaction is the nicotine craving. Adding the nicotine doesn't make you feel better because nicotine makes you feel better, it makes you feel better because the body now has a use for the nicotine metabolising chemicals it has created.
If you can ride through the bad patch then the body "learns" not to create the chemicals any more and over time, the craving reduces as less and less of the chemicals are reduced.
essentially IIRC when you start to smoke, the body "learns" to accommodate the toxins you inhale when you smoke. Eventually it creates the chemicals needed for that accommodation in preparation for the toxin that it expects. When that expected toxin doesn't come, the body's reaction is the nicotine craving. Adding the nicotine doesn't make you feel better because nicotine makes you feel better, it makes you feel better because the body now has a use for the nicotine metabolising chemicals it has created.
If you can ride through the bad patch then the body "learns" not to create the chemicals any more and over time, the craving reduces as less and less of the chemicals are reduced.
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