Why Is It Now Wrong To Cherish The Way Of Life, That We Once Held Dear?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2337702/SIMON-HEFFER-Coronation-dream-politicians-betrayed.html

Is it now wrong to still cherish our way of life?

/// But steadily over the past six decades — particularly in the past 15 years or so — those aspects of Britishness and key institutions have all too often been insulted, rebuffed, ridiculed, despised, attacked and, to all intents and purposes, destroyed. ///

How very true, but not just by politicians.

[Gromit]

Sqad,

It is not true that there were no statistics for 1969. There were, mybe not in the format that the ONS uses now.

See my post at 10:46.
// by the end of the 1950s the number of teenage births had risen nearly 50% from thirty-three thousand in 1955 to forty-six thousand, a rate of 31.6. The numbers of births to girls under 16 remained constant during the late 1940s and early half of the 1950s. From 1955 to the end of the Fifties, the numbers of under 16s giving birth more than doubled. //

I wonder if the same happened in the rest off Europe. Or maybe AOGs generation started our slide to the top of the European illegitimacy table.

[tamborine]

Neglect of playing a musical instrument, I find a sad loss. My g'kids have had ukeleles, guitars, harmonicas & keyboards for the last 5y and no music heard from them….…except the beeps from their mobile games :(

[Sqad]

Gromit......i am a simple guy and of average intelligence, but i read your 10.46 quote over and over again.....and i am not saying that it is untrue, but i am saying two things a) that i am not sure that i understand it and b) itn doesn't tally with my personal experience (anecdotal) evidence.
Again it compares the era of a decade of the 50's ( I think) a period of 10 years. One can pick any starting and finishing point in statistic to support their argument....I am sure that i do it.......as well as other ABers.

We have the big match..Statistics v Anecdotal evidence...a debate of which i will side step at the moment.

Those statistics do not tally with my personal experiences....for what that is worth.

[jackthehat]

It's a shame that no-one seems to have ever gathered statistics on teenaged/unmarried fathers.....

[Sqad]

JTH...they certainly would be interesting.......the problem being that many of these pregnant teenagers have no idea which of the many "partners" WAS the father.

[jackthehat]

Ah, yes......all those shameless hussies.
It's a surprise that there were *any* nice gels left for one to marry.......after one had spent one's formative years consorting with the sort of filly one certainly wouldn't want to take home to mother!

[Sqad]

JTH

\\\\\ever gathered statistics on teenaged/unmarried fathers..... \\\

Sorry, I thought that your post was about "unmarried fathers."

[jackthehat]

It was.......you mentioned unmarried mothers.

[Sqad]

JTH....I was replying yo your post...............never mind.....your point is well taken............(if barely understood)

[andres]

Statistics, statistics!!Do these figures for the 50s/60s appertain to married teenage girls?There were a lot of marriages where the girls were 18/19.It was thought then that you were 'on the shelf' if you weren't married by 25years old.The figures seem very high for the 50s/60s if they are for unmarried teenage pregnancies.But I suppose that the one sixth form girl at our school contributed to these figures. As did the two girls in our small town in Lancashire. I don't remember teenage pregnancy being any big deal until round about the late 70s when it became easy for single mums to get a council flat .

[anotheoldgit]

/// Those statistics do not tally with my personal experiences....for what that is worth. ///

Neither mine also, I can never remember any teenager who had a child back then, but I know many today.

If they were all getting rid of them before they showed, then the back street abortionists must have been kept busy.

[DTCwordfan]

Fodder for the EDL and what clap-trap. Complete diarrhoea on paper, sanctimonious prat.

[Sqad]

DT.....have you got the right thread?

[Kromovaracun]

"Neither mine also, I can never remember any teenager who had a child back then, but I know many today."

My grandmother was pregnant very young with my father in the 1950s. She quickly married my grandfather to avoid being shamed by her community. Fortunately for her, the marriage turned out to be a happy one.

Would you care to speculate how many more such cases there were that nobody ended up hearing about, AOG? Again you are making the error of assuming that someone who was around in the 1950s is capable of speaking of all areas of experience in the 1950s.

[FredPuli43]

aog, get's get some balance into this. Which features of past decades,which decades you think more highly of here, would you not cherish, which would you criticise, and which are you happy we no longer have ?

[DTCwordfan]

totally, sqad, totally.....this was shyte stirring from a so-called intelligent nutter.

[Sqad]

DT...OK....LOL.

I couldn't quite understand to whom you were referring, but i think that I can now.

[DTCwordfan]

[i] dtc hands out the rose-tinted specs, marked with the elliptical triangle "BST" and Made in 1952[i]

[THECORBYLOON]

Should that not be B***S**T 1952?