Should There Now Be An Inquiry Into Why This Case Took So Long Coming To Light?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2324386/Missed-chances-halt-sex-gang-Police-social-workers-apologise-girls-tortured-medieval-predators-chief-constable-refuses-resign.html

There have been calls for the chief constable of Thames Valley Police to resign, but she is not the only one who was responsible for the years this case had been ignored.

They were not all Pakistanis, these two monsters were from Entrea, however they are still Muslims.

/// Their civil servant father brought them to Britain from Eritrea to give them the best chance in life. ///

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2324629/Egyptian-Mo-Sam-Rapist-The-middle-class-brothers-father-wanted-study-Oxford-University.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2324621/Girl-12-branded-hairpin-raped-sold-sex-600-hour.html

[Gromit]

Yet another anti Police post.

They are only teying to do their job under difficult circumstances.

[emmie]

what will an inquiry solve, that so many of those who were supposed to protect these young people, let them down, time and again. we know that from reading any report, so all you will get is another apologist from the police, social services, the customary soundbite lessons will be learned, when one might ask. How many more of these cases will come to light, too many i fear.

[sp1814]

em10

The reason public enquiries are launched is to examine processes and identify what changes need to be made.

It's not about obtaining apologies (which should be forthcoming anyway).

Without public enquiries, we would never had discovered the truth behind Bloody Sunday, the flawed Stephen Lawrence prosecution and Hillsborough.

In this - I think AOG has a point.

[ludwig]

Yes, there should be inquiry. I think it's important to understand why these crimes were allowed to continue for so long despite being reported to the authorities on numerous occasions.

[emmie]

how many inquiries does it take i wonder, have one for this case and the next and the next, then see what comes out of it, precisely nothing, as the damage has already been done, not to mention the same old lines trotted out. This is not about anti police, this is about the subjugation, rape, torture of innocents, but the next time some apologist from the social services says lessons will be learned let us hope they actually mean it. I feel nothing for these men, though the law doesn't allow it, i would lock them up for life, and throw away the key. They will have lives, shame we can't ship them out someplace after their sentences are up, what a credit to their communities, families.

[emmie]

doing your job means actually listening, taking note what people tell you, not disbelieve the person because of the age, state the child was in, or that she looks a bit rough around the edges, heaven almighty look at this case, they were just children, and these men changed all that, over an eight year period, how was that remotely possibly, that it went on so very long.

[sp1814]

em10

Yes - there have been many cases where social services have said "Lessons have been learned" (specifically, I'm thinking of the Victoria Climbié and Baby P cases).

However, the value of an enquiry into this case could be to check why the police and social services failed to put two and two together. Should their be a redesign of their IT infrastructure so that data is more readily available between the services? Is there an institutionalised fear of being accused of racism? How can these failures be mitigated in the future.

It's not so much about apportioning blame, but examining what happened and establishing protocols to prevent it happening in future.

[ludwig]

Sp is right. If an inquiry is held, there's always a chance that no lessons will be learnt, and nothing will change.

However without an inquiry, it's an absolute cast iron certainty that no lessons will be learnt and nothing will change.

[naomi24]

I get tired of hearing 'lessons will be learnt'. They never seem to be.

[chrisgel]

I think that this article by an Imam from the area pretty much answers all the questions that have been raised here.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2325185/The-Oxford-sex-ring-preachers-teach-young-Muslim-men-white-girls-cheap.html

[emmie]

it should be about apportioning blame, this is the trouble with this country, no one will take the responsibility for these systematic failures, and not just this type of case, so called caring hospitals killing their patients, paedophiles at the BBC, staff turning a blind eye, and a Pakistani community that refuses to acknowledge that there are some in their midst who treat girls, women this way, time to fess us i'm afraid.
If no one is ever accountable, how do you make things better.

Sharon Shoesmith was fired for her role in the Baby Peter case, she took them to the cleaners on an unfair dismissal charge and as far as i know won, with a large payout. Criminal.