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Magnificent, do you think we should now extend that to trespassing?
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Yes! Make trespassing illegal.... My partner and I are farmers, for a while the bloody ramblers would walk right through our land, allowing their hounds to mess everywhere, including in the crops... Disgusting! We fenced all the fields in but allowed and paid for fencing to make paths for the ramblers to work along and still they complain, advising that we have stopped them walking wherever they want... How dare they! So, yes, absolutely, let's make espassing illegal please.
So Fred, what you are saying is that people can walk all over someone elses property. We have a friend who has a small holding, she grew peas, had them harvested and the whole harvest had to be condemned due to the people walking through her field and allowing their dogs to sh*t in it, thus covering the peas... Nice to have all her money thrown away due to other peoples inconsiderate behaviours.
Yes Fred, tell that to the local sports club that regularly has pikey scum all over their pitches. I also sympathise with farmers etc like kat. They bend over backwards to help the wierdy beardy mob do their rambling yet still they disrespect the land of others. Have public footpaths by all means but fence them off and prosecute for trespass.
I absolutely agree with AOG on this.
I saw a documentary earlier this year about hundreds of perfectly good houses in Liverpool which are standing empty because the area has effectively become a ghost town.
The local council said it was difficult getting tenants because no-one wants to be the first to live there...however, surely it makes more sense to renovate these houses, and get families in, paying rent, than for money to be wasted putting people up in B&Bs...and just think about all the revenue the rents could bring in.
And before anyone says anything, yes - occasionally AOG and I agree on things.
I saw a documentary earlier this year about hundreds of perfectly good houses in Liverpool which are standing empty because the area has effectively become a ghost town.
The local council said it was difficult getting tenants because no-one wants to be the first to live there...however, surely it makes more sense to renovate these houses, and get families in, paying rent, than for money to be wasted putting people up in B&Bs...and just think about all the revenue the rents could bring in.
And before anyone says anything, yes - occasionally AOG and I agree on things.
I farm. We do get trespassers, but they are generally town people who hold the bizarre idea that any track on a farm is a public path. I can't be arsed to have signs put up on every single track which isn't, just to tell them the opposite. I doubt whether they'd notice the signs anyway.Trespassers are not a problem around here. Country people know that farms and farmland are not to be treated like public areas. Town people who come to live in the village either know that or are soon disabused of the wrong idea.
It may be that some outsiders have heard of 'the right to roam' and think that it applies to the whole country rather than just to small bits of it, being mostly wild coastal areas.
Poachers and hare coursers are another matter, though happily both are in decline here now.
It may be that some outsiders have heard of 'the right to roam' and think that it applies to the whole country rather than just to small bits of it, being mostly wild coastal areas.
Poachers and hare coursers are another matter, though happily both are in decline here now.
The problem for ramblers is that some farmers remove the footpath signs so trespassing takes place. Its so short sighted of farmers to do this as many ramblers want to follow the code and stick to footpaths.
Another ploy by some farmers is to put 'Bull in Field' hoping that ramblers will avoid a footpath through it.
Another ploy by some farmers is to put 'Bull in Field' hoping that ramblers will avoid a footpath through it.
Quite so pdq1 - I'm a bloody good map reader & will always keep my party (and their dogs) on the path ... but many farmers don't help themselves - deliberately removed signs, crap stiles, obstructed paths - etc, et bloody cetera.
I'd vote for a party that said "not a penny in EU or UK subsidy for any farm which doesn't have all its rights of way clearly marked and unobstructed".
It may be your land but I have a right to use the paths - I will always be a responsible walker - but you must be a responsible landowner too.
I'd vote for a party that said "not a penny in EU or UK subsidy for any farm which doesn't have all its rights of way clearly marked and unobstructed".
It may be your land but I have a right to use the paths - I will always be a responsible walker - but you must be a responsible landowner too.
To Sunnydave and PDQ, as you may have read from my first post, we have paid for and erected pathways for the ramblers, put up new signs so they can follow the paths but still they moan, how dare we, as farmers put fencing up around our fields... Bloody ridiculous, would you like us traipsing around your garden or walk into your office at work? This is our livelihood not some hobby that we play at!
We work bloody hard to harvest the yields, to get it right but all the time have the sodding ramblers champing at the bit... My suggestion is, if you are that bored, instead of having a go at the farmers, utilise your energies and go do some charity work or something, just leave us alone to get on with our jobs!
We work bloody hard to harvest the yields, to get it right but all the time have the sodding ramblers champing at the bit... My suggestion is, if you are that bored, instead of having a go at the farmers, utilise your energies and go do some charity work or something, just leave us alone to get on with our jobs!
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