Will this report's findings be in the DM?

[bibblebub]

http://www.guardian.c...s-uk-british-research

A study by the Institute for Social and Economic Research of 40000 UK households found that ethnic minorities living in the UK feel more British than their white counterparts and the report's author added "...within the majority white population many maintain strong non-British identities, such as Scots or Welsh"

So do those findings feature in that tabloid?

[Charity]

If everyone who claimed to be Irish went home there'd be standing room only.

[Brenden]

Probably because like the Scots or Welsh most feel English.

[RATTER15]

I would say the report is absolute nonsense!

[Gromit]

Just looked and it is not in the Daily Mail today.

Probably because they or their fathers/Grandfathers have had to work hard for their British Citizenship and have experienced the alternatives first had. White people who come from a long line of British subjects take it for granted and most have never experienced life in another country.

[FredPuli43]

[From The Times report on this study]

The 40,000 families included some 10.000 individuals of ethnic origin.

It is sometimes asserted that Pakistanis associate more strongly with their ethnic group than with this country, but the reverse is actually the case.

Every minority group scored more highly on the scale of 0 to 10 question of how important being British was to them, than their white British counterparts did.Black African Muslims scored highest at 8.2 out of 10. The white British scored 6.6

People over 60 felt more British than others, but there was a reduced sense of British identity in people with a college or university education.

My comment is that British people in England commonly identify themselves as English rather than British but ethnic minorities are inclined to define themselves as British, not English. This, to some extent, may explain the lower 0 to 10 score.

Interesting to see what treatment the Mail gives this. Probably they'll imply that the study's authors are left-leaning, notorious activists for Muslim causes or some such!

[FredPuli43]

^^ Correction:The report was on 40,000 households [not 'families'] ^^

[Gromit]

// Interesting to see what treatment the Mail gives this. Probably they'll imply that the study's authors are left-leaning, notorious activists for Muslim causes or some such! //

Or they will just ignore it. (Which they have so far).

[THECORBYLOON]

Brenden, they may feel English but according to anotheoldgit they can not be English if they are not white.

[jno]

I think Brenden's point is that immigrants feel British, whereas melanistic natives feel English, Scottish or Welsh. (Not sure what those in Northern Ireland feel.) Since Britannia ceased to rule the waves, the English don't want to be British any more, there being no longer any profit in it.

[Duncer]

Northern Irish.

[jno]

does that mean feeling no great kinship with, say, the English, Duncer? Or with the Irish? Can you feel Northern Irish and British too?

[THEMOTLEY1]

I am proud to be English

[pdq1]

So why do they fail Norman Tebbitt's britishness test?

http://wzeu.search-re...org/wiki/Cricket_test

[anotheoldgit]

/// Just looked and it is not in the Daily Mail today. ///

Neither would it have been in the Guardian if it had not been singing from it's hymn sheet.

But the Daily Mail are not so bias it seems.

http://www.dailymail....tml?ito=feeds-newsxml

[ummmm]

Some feel Northern Irish, some feel Irish.

[anotheoldgit]

FredPuli43

/// Interesting to see what treatment the Mail gives this. Probably they'll imply that the study's authors are left-leaning, notorious activists for Muslim causes or some such! ///

Read for yourself, can see any mention of the study's left-wing authors, seems like you are being a little bigoted in this instance.

http://www.dailymail....tml?ito=feeds-newsxml

Perhaps you should make sure of your implications are correct before making incorrect comments.

[anotheoldgit]

bibblebub

/// Will this report's findings be in the DM? ///

The answer is a big 'YES'.

Oh, I do love it

[bibblebub]

we know that you love that rag

[THECORBYLOON]

Anotheoldgit, have you no comments to make on the actual findings?

[sp1814]

And just look at the responses from DM readers (sort the comments section into 'Best rated' and prepare to roll your eyes).