The Arab Spring? should we be very cautious about the eventual outcome?

Bobbisox | 07:41 Fri 01st Jul 2011 | News

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Was the world a safer place when the above was under the rule of of the now "hated" leaders of these countries?
What will be the consequences?
good or bad

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Brenden

Caliphate comes to mind.

Bobbisox

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sorry Brenden, what is Caliphate?

emmie

The term caliphate "dominion of a caliph ('successor')" (from the Arabic خلافة or khilāfa, Turkish: Halife), refers to the first system of government established in Islam and represented the political unity of the Muslim Ummah (community). In theory, it is a theocratic constitutional republic[1] (the Constitution being the Constitution of Medina), which means that the head of state, the Caliph, and other officials are representatives of the people and of Islam and must govern according to constitutional and religious law, or Sharia. In its early days, it resembled elements of direct democracy (see shura) and an elective monarchy.

sandyRoe

^^^ I think it's the idea of an Islamic state stretching from Africa across Asia to Indonesia.

Bobbisox

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thanks for that, I am always willing to learn :-)

DrFilth

bobbi when you say they have a deep seated hatred of the west think of some members of the bnp who have hatred for some groups

some may some may not

read the links in this post would you believe this was the same man
check baz's link then read jake's

http://www.theanswerb.../Question1032536.html

DrFilth

please remember i have said some not all

Bobbisox

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I saw them yesterday Dr,
it is a very worrying aspect, as for the bnp, I see them as a bunch of lunatics and nothing more

emmie

But the difference is that their religion is all important, as far as i can see, and that moderate Muslims, ones who do want more freedom and democracy, could well be overruled, overthrown, not sure right words, by more extremist factions, that may be in the minorty, but have more to gain in the longer term.

Bobbisox

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em that is the fear I have too, these countries could end up as hard line Islamic states like Iran, with Mullahs running them

DrFilth

bobbi israel will stop at nothing to discredit some people

>>In another incident, government staff circulated a video purporting to be made by a gay rights activist whose offer to join the flotilla had been rejected. The activist said he was rejected because the organisers were associated with Hamas which was homophobic and antipathetic to human rights.

When the video was exposed as a hoax, the Prime Minister's office said the video was promoted by an intern, Guy Seemann. "Mr Seemann is a 25-year-old who is interning in our office. His tweet was a mistake on his part. It was done without authorisation and without approval. His mistake has been pointed out to him." <<

the mistake pointed out to him was that he sould have spoken to mossad and used a proxy server :)

Bobbisox

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But the Americans continue their support of Israel Dr?

Brenden

And Israel in the middle. A country Iran and the Muslim Brotherhood has publicly stated will be exterminated.

DrFilth

america has a very large and powerful jewish lobby

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_lobby

Bobbisox

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and guess who was responsible for changing the map of the region?

jno

SandyRoe, I don't think the Muslim Brotherhood are especially fanatical - in fact they're very set on non-violence

http://en.wikipedia.o...ki/Muslim_brotherhood

You'll notice from that link that they have profited from state weakness - as the state is too broke to provide health and social security to the poor, the Brotherhood has won great respect by taking on the job themselves.

My question: is Cameron's 'Big Society', which also has to do with saving money by encouraging local ccommunity efforts, going to lead to the same thing in the UK? Will Muslim groups become popular by helping the underclass here as the government backs away from them?

DrFilth

every day israel gets bigger

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhXvckF0eSw

Bobbisox

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theres another problem, The Jewish people of Israel would become misplaced without a country of their own should these fanatical threats be carried out, no one wants to see that happen

DrFilth

imagine your home taken at gun point then bulldozed to the ground
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEe4vHt7GmQ&feature=related