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European immigrants added £5bn to UK GDP
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I had something similar happen to me about 30 years ago which may account for my skeptism of the press.
A chemical factory blew Up behind my house and a journalist was approaching us on lookers watching the firebrigade put out the fire. The journalist asked me if I had seen the explosion and I said no, I had just heard a bang and when I looked out of the window I saw smoke. The journalist moved on and I thought nothing of it. Later that day I Got a call from a friend asking if I was alright, and had I seen the Evening paper. When I read it, there were made up quotes attributed to me. My throwaway line about just hearing a bang had become "There was a huge fireball 200 feet high, and my whole flat shook!" I should have complained to the papers editor at the time but I was just bemused. It taught me a lesson early on not to believe everything in the newspapers.
Sadly, as is evident in the AB News Section, a lot of peOple take it all in as gospel truth.
11:54 Fri 29th Apr 2011
That is from the BBC i would like to see it from a reputable source.
I had something similar happen to me about 30 years ago which may account for my skeptism of the press.
A chemical factory blew Up behind my house and a journalist was approaching us on lookers watching the firebrigade put out the fire. The journalist asked me if I had seen the explosion and I said no, I had just heard a bang and when I looked out of the window I saw smoke. The journalist moved on and I thought nothing of it. Later that day I Got a call from a friend asking if I was alright, and had I seen the Evening paper. When I read it, there were made up quotes attributed to me. My throwaway line about just hearing a bang had become "There was a huge fireball 200 feet high, and my whole flat shook!" I should have complained to the papers editor at the time but I was just bemused. It taught me a lesson early on not to believe everything in the newspapers.
Sadly, as is evident in the AB News Section, a lot of peOple take it all in as gospel truth.
11:54 Fri 29th Apr 2011
That is from the BBC i would like to see it from a reputable source.
Can We Trust The BBC by Robin Aitken
This book asks a big question: can we trust the BBC? The BBC is the most famous media brand in the world and it is growing bigger and more powerful every year. Its reputation depends on honest and accurate journalism. But this book argues that the Corporation's own pervasive left wing political culture imperils its impartiality. It demonstrates how some groups and viewpoints get favourable treatment while others are left out in the cold. The book examines the concept of 'public sector broadcasting' and asks if that has come to mean simply radio and television free of commercial bias. It argues that there are other 'hidden persuaders' that we the audience should be alert to. Drawing on the author's twenty five years as a BBC reporter and executive, the books blends analysis and sharp polemic to paint a vivid picture of life inside the news machine from a uniquely privileged point of view. It also tells the story of how the BBC responded to a dissident in its own ranks. With the future of the BBC now the subject of a government White Paper, this book will be a timely contribution to the debate about public broadcasting.
This book asks a big question: can we trust the BBC? The BBC is the most famous media brand in the world and it is growing bigger and more powerful every year. Its reputation depends on honest and accurate journalism. But this book argues that the Corporation's own pervasive left wing political culture imperils its impartiality. It demonstrates how some groups and viewpoints get favourable treatment while others are left out in the cold. The book examines the concept of 'public sector broadcasting' and asks if that has come to mean simply radio and television free of commercial bias. It argues that there are other 'hidden persuaders' that we the audience should be alert to. Drawing on the author's twenty five years as a BBC reporter and executive, the books blends analysis and sharp polemic to paint a vivid picture of life inside the news machine from a uniquely privileged point of view. It also tells the story of how the BBC responded to a dissident in its own ranks. With the future of the BBC now the subject of a government White Paper, this book will be a timely contribution to the debate about public broadcasting.
I think you need another thread to discuss BBC impartiality - there is some chap called rebel-somethingorother that would love to chat to you about it i believe as he is border line obsessive about the subject.
This is a good new story - i would also like to know more about how their taxes have propped up our pension system and their work as improved our plumbing a hundred fold. But seriously at the time (and in some quarters still) the eastern europeans are seen as an invading mass adding nothing to the country - does this no convince you that our great country has always benefited from the hard work of immigrants from one neck of the woods or another - the uk is a fantastic country and is only made better by these invading hordes!
This is a good new story - i would also like to know more about how their taxes have propped up our pension system and their work as improved our plumbing a hundred fold. But seriously at the time (and in some quarters still) the eastern europeans are seen as an invading mass adding nothing to the country - does this no convince you that our great country has always benefited from the hard work of immigrants from one neck of the woods or another - the uk is a fantastic country and is only made better by these invading hordes!
I notice the report makes one huge assumption. It says:
"Britain's GDP grew by £98bn, or 7.7%, and the NIESR study says that a 5% share of the £98bn can be put down to the migrants".
How do we know it is 5%?
Do they have any figures to back it up?
It may have gone up anyway WITHOUT any EU immigrants.
It is a bit like me saying I have bought an elephant gun, but since then not one elephant has been seen in my garden, so it must be because I bought the gun.
It is easy to link two events and THINK they must be related.
"Britain's GDP grew by £98bn, or 7.7%, and the NIESR study says that a 5% share of the £98bn can be put down to the migrants".
How do we know it is 5%?
Do they have any figures to back it up?
It may have gone up anyway WITHOUT any EU immigrants.
It is a bit like me saying I have bought an elephant gun, but since then not one elephant has been seen in my garden, so it must be because I bought the gun.
It is easy to link two events and THINK they must be related.
Here is a different twist on the same story...
// UK migrant workers may flee to German companies
Germany is set to gain the most talented migrant workers from the UK after it lifts restrictions on European nationals entering the country. //
http://www.telegraph....German-companies.html
// UK migrant workers may flee to German companies
Germany is set to gain the most talented migrant workers from the UK after it lifts restrictions on European nationals entering the country. //
http://www.telegraph....German-companies.html
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