Have we gone completely bloody mad????

[Bobbisox]

http://www.thesun.co....-of-Chinese-pair.html

so next time I am away from home and someone asks me to say" Whay Aye"(which has happened often) or strikes up a rendition of the Blaydon Races
do I report this to the Police? and have them done for blatant racism....too daft for words imo!

[Bobbisox]

it must be the Norherners who use the term as far as I see WY..(Chinese one)

[China Doll]

What is the difference between going to the pak1 shop or going down the chinky? Is one more offensive than the other.

My point was that you shouldn't have used it as an example of what people say. A lot of people DON'T say it in much the same way as they wouldn't say nig ger. Because we have learnt that it is often offensive.

[Booldawg]

we use it down here too Bobbs!

[jackthehat]

WY - The term P*** (again, my asterisks) is a catch-all for a brown person; it does not differentiate between any of the countries of Asia. It is lazy-shorthand and shows a disregard for the sensibilities of the person at whom it is aimed. Also, it is more frequently used as a pejorative term for these people.

A very different animal from the casual sort of name-calling between nationalities sharing a single island.

[jno]

for all I know, Pak1 was once affectionate. But it's been so often used by racists to cause offence that it's become offensive, so people have stopped saying it. We can always change the words we use, it's one of the aspects of our lives that we're in complete control of.

[Gromit]

The poster in the photograph in the Sun article describes the act as "Duelling Organs". I assume the double entendre is intentional. This is a big clue that this is a comedy act, and they were using the Kung Fu song to laugh at Chinese people.

[pastafreak]

There was a discussion on here last year about the use of certain terms for takeaways and corner shops. I'd say the majority seemed to see nothing wrong in those terms.

It was jth who actually used the term in this thread-and said it 'usually' meant no offense. We need to be able to have a discussion-use relevant examples-and not get pulled up for it.

[Bobbisox]

Boold I was starting to think it was very localised..
I don't use as a horrible slur or for being lazy and racist...!!!!
I find the Chinese people very warm and polite actually

[JimT]

I'm not sure I'd agree that Paddy, Jock and Taff are always used affectionately.

But whether they are or not, I rank those as equally annoying (rather than actually offensive) as other 'blanket' terms - Frog, Kraut, Eye-Ti, as well as luvvie, boffin, and so on. It's like people think in binary, there's an instant reaction - stage actor? Luvvie! Someone who's kind of like scientific type thing? Boffin! And once they've done that, they can just lump the person and everyone else with the same 'tag' together in a convenient way. There have been lots of references here to 'lazy thinking' but that's exactly what this is, and there's no come-back to it because if you express any irritation at it, you get that worst of all British condemnations: "You can't take a joke."

[ChuckFickens]

This question was raised on here a little while ago and I put it to whitebears (who is Chinese) if she found the term "chinky" offensive when used to describe a Chinese takeaway. The answer was a definite yes.

[WELSHYORKIE]

CD - why should I not have used it as an example - those 2 particular 'names' are used daily and not used offensively - I never have nor would I ever use the N word as I find that totally offensive.

[JimT]

But WELSHYORKIE isn't the point partly that no matter how "non-offensively" the use of those terms may be intended, there are people who hear it daily and it has a drip-drip effect? They may not even actually take offence at it but get very irritated hearing it so often.

[pastafreak]

I think that's the same discussion I was referring to,chuck. I'd forgotten about whitebears. She was quite upset by some of the remarks she'd seen.

[Ankou]

being of elvish origin, i am quite offended that nobody has yet mentioned

elf and safety

its been 52 posts now with no mention, its an outrage. where do i complain.

[jackthehat]

Ankou - WY brought up the subject of H&S in his 9.09 post.........I think that is the bigger brother of your E & S.........is it close enough ? :o)

[Bobbisox]

trying very hard to get back to the thread before it descends into anarchy, I think , where this guy has been plain stpid, is by what he said on FB

[WELSHYORKIE]

Bobbi - Can we all sing 'When The Boat Comes In' now?

[China Doll]

Welsh - You can say and use whatever example you want. But the flip side of that coin is that someone may disagree with you (like I'm doing). I see no distinguishing difference between saying you're going to the *** shop or to the chinky and using the term ***. All of these terms were created without particularly light and fluffy feelings behind them so regardless of whether people don't mean any offense when they say them or even mean it effectionately, I personally think it's distasteful and don't use it.

I also was pointing out that alot of people don't use these phrases for the reasons I have given.

And if we're throwing 'paddy' out there... how many times is paddy used as an effectionate nickname for someone who is thick... or typical jock to describe someone who is tight... Just putting it out there for discussion more than anything.

As I'm trying to say Welshie, we live in a democracy, say what you want... But I disagee in this instance.

[Bobbisox]

ha-ha WY..:-)
NO!!!