Are These Measures Enough?

anotheoldgit | 16:09 Fri 24th Apr 2015 | News

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3053551/After-years-inaction-EU-leaders-finally-begin-tackle-Mediterranean-migrant-crisis-Funds-rescue-operations-tripled-military-action-against-traffickers-agreed.html

If not what more could have been done?

I am surprised that the question of Europe's open borders never came up, and shouldn't the African nations shoulder some of the responsibility?

Well done to Cameron though who insisted that the UK would not take in any of these migrants.

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Zacs-Master

The short answer to your first question is 'nobody knows'. I suspect it won't be, as I don't think the measures allow for the desparation of the refugees.

retrocop

Well the Dutch PM thought the African nations could and should do more.something,I note, has been suggested several times before on AB

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Zacs-Master

/// I suspect it won't be, as I don't think the measures allow for the desparation of the refugees. ///

Why are they so desperate to reach Europe, surely an easier route would have been within their own African continent?

Zacs-Master

From Libya? Just a few passport issues there AOG.

sandyRoe

AOG, I think you take your liberties for granted. Who wouldn't want to live in a democracy? There are precious few of them in Africa.

andy-hughes

Maybe the UK should take some of them - since perceived wisdom acknowledges that it is the destabilisation of Libya and other African countries caused by the military interference from the UK and its allies that has helped to create this situation in the first place?

Baldric

And if Labour get in in two weeks time, how long before we start getting Boatloads of them brought back to the UK, because we really need more don't we?

beegeebee

Could it be that breaking up the Commonwealth was not, in retrospect such a good idea? As I recall brought about by the U.S.A. as they didn't have one, and as part reparation for the lease lend deal.

Zacs-Master

Libya was never part of the Commonwealth.

Baldric

You've been warned!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3053043/Miliband-bring-uncontrolled-migration-Mail-urges-speak-PM-s-stark-warning.html

ichkeria

Not sure 'open borders' applies when you have large numbers of people being trafficked in death traps actress the Med. A bit like worrying about having no bolts on your windows as the fire spreads ...

Gromit

The story is by now familiar. We take military action against a country and remove the rulers. Then we leave without a credible replacement Government installed. Anarchy ensues and opportunists like ISIS take over. The pipulation fearing for their lives, leave and we then have a refugee crisis.

2011:
// Cameron visited injured rebel soldiers in Tripoli, but the message was simple: we have saved you.

Later that day, David Cameron, fresh from his first and apparently successful foreign military intervention, took the stage at a Benghazi rally, alongside Nicolas Sarkozy. “It is great to be here in free Benghazi, and free Libya,” he said.

“Your city was an inspiration to the world as you threw off the dictator and chose freedom. People in Britain salute your courage.” //

2015:
// “The Foreign and Commonwealth Office advise against all travel to Libya due to the ongoing fighting and deteriorating security situation... The British Embassy in Tripoli has temporarily closed, and is unable to provide consular assistance. There is a high threat from terrorism.” //

tonyav

What could happen if there is a labour deal with the SNP.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/11509637/Labour-deal-with-SNP-would-lead-to-new-flood-of-immigration-warns-report.html

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jourdain2

So far as I can gather, a lot (if not most) of these 'refugees' are not Libyan. I'll be shouted down, but I'm tired of being blamed. I am appalled at myself for thinking 'Right, OK, move on, it's not our fault they shouldn't be doing this crossing', but the other half of me says 'sensible thinking'. They take their chances.
I used to donate to 'Save the Children', but Africans have not limited their population growth; as was prophesised when children would live so fewer pregnancies were needed. I won't give another penny.

Looking at maps, Tunisia seems to be nearer. The answer seems to be to tow any boats to Tunisia (or N.Africa, whichever is nearest) disembark the occupants and then scuttle the boats.

As i have remarked, I'm surprised at myself - but that is how I happen to feel about all this.

Ooops, perhaps I'm a bit off subject! We are limited as to numbers, Cameron is right. There...